D.A.: Port must waive records' fees

2012-02-28T11:02:00Z 2012-02-29T14:35:19Z D.A.: Port must waive records' feesThe World Coos Bay World
February 28, 2012 11:02 am  • 

COQUILLE — Coos County District Attorney R. Paul Frasier has ordered the Oregon International Port of Coos Bay to waive $16,666 in attorneys fees it charged the Sierra Club for a roughly 2,500 page public records request. 

The Sierra Club appealed the Port’s fee to Frasier earlier this month. The total fee for the records request was roughly $20,000. 

Frasier said the $3,215 in fees for the cost of photocopies and staff time to retrieve the documents is reasonable.

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  1. Kay
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    Kay - March 06, 2012 12:14 pm
    Common Sense said: "IWantToKnowAlso...How or even WHY...Attorney's for the Port Commissioners were involved for Public reports in the first place? I'm still smelling something NOT right between the layers of Corruption here??? Could it be one to many hidden secret deals by the Port Commissioners that maybe they'll be asked about & have no answers for? Bottomline: Public records = Public Paid for = PUBLIC VIEWING!!! "
    Port lies,paper won't print it.Ask Elise.
  2. deceptions
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    deceptions - March 06, 2012 10:22 am
    it is totally self evident that you have never once attended a port meeting 'common sense'.
  3. Common Sense
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    Common Sense - March 05, 2012 3:15 pm
    Nothing Business about the Port Commissioners...

    All those parasite members do is receive their next blank Tax payer's check, then create all these little hidden secret SCAM deals like EXPORTING USA Gas/LNG, Coal, etc, that they KNOW the majority of Oregon citizens are against.
    Notice how there is ALWAYS:
    1) No Public Discussion on Topics
    2) No Public Discussion on Spending
    3) No Public/Oregon Vote

    Bottomline: These incompetent parasites just waste time & Tax payer's money on failed SCAMS!!!
  4. deceptions
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    deceptions - March 04, 2012 11:45 am
    Common sense lacks all common sense.

    Lawyers are involved because the law is involved. Redactions are serious business. Whoops i said that word again huh? Business... Forgot you dont know what that means.
  5. Common Sense
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    Common Sense - March 02, 2012 12:35 pm
    IWantToKnowAlso...

    How or even WHY...Attorney's for the Port Commissioners were involved for Public reports in the first place? I'm still smelling something NOT right between the layers of Corruption here??? Could it be one to many hidden secret deals by the Port Commissioners that maybe they'll be asked about & have no answers for?

    Bottomline: Public records = Public Paid for = PUBLIC VIEWING!!!
  6. IWanttoknow
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    IWanttoknow - February 29, 2012 5:01 pm
    I want to know if anyone that blogs is a Attorney? The last time I had to hire one the rate was $200.00 per hour or fraction of an hour! The Port does not get a Attorney Fee reduction! If folks think Attorney fees are to high, go get the education, pay all office cost, in fact attorney's pay all cost, just like any other business! Toss in Port Employee's pay, plus all document fees for court cost, one might find reason to support the port. No,the Port does not hire a person for FOIA! Opinin
  7. GoodGrief
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    GoodGrief - February 29, 2012 4:22 pm
    Sherman; your spelling has always been atrocious, but repeating "Frazer" when you know very well it is "Frasier" just displays your petulance and immaturity. It is disturbing that you hold a professional position in this county.

    And "deceptions"; your derogatory comments, constant misinformation and cheerleading for the Port have removed all credibility from your comments. Time to change your username and start anew.
  8. GoodGrief
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    GoodGrief - February 29, 2012 4:13 pm
    I don’t want to hear about the cost of staff time to redact-I could redact at least 1 page every 1 minute (and that is overly generous)–it would be around 40 hrs of work for the 2500 pages, plus the cost of ink & paper, and I would be more than happy to be compensated over $3200 dollars for the job. The county will make a tidy “profit” and the documents will inform the public-it’s a good deal and the legal thing to do, thanks Mr. Frasier.
  9. Common Sense
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    Common Sense - February 29, 2012 3:51 pm
    Sherman, Deception, DHCollins, Everyman & the other few minority supporters:

    SIMPLE STUPID QUESTION FOR YOU: How to stop depending on the system for your every day lazy existence?

    SIMPLE STUPID ANSWER FOR YOU: Create your OWN job by creating your OWN cheap start up business. Figure out what your skills are & what this area needs & go for it. Examples: Gardener, House cleaner, Auto mechanic, Carpenter, Welder, Roofer, Electrician, Baker, Computer Tech etc!

    Bottomline: Stop depending on SCAM$$$
  10. deceptions
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    deceptions - February 29, 2012 2:21 pm
    how can you be so twisted Jay?

    Do you even know what the Sierra Club specifically is requesting? Do you have any idea what the proposal even entails?

    PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE educate yourself for once in your 'alternative' life
  11. Kay
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    Kay - February 29, 2012 1:17 pm
    Deceptions might try having a point to his posts regarding the issues at hand, instead of calling other posters names.

    It's lots more fun deceptions.

    And Jon? Finding out what the Port is doing with our funds is not "folly", promising things to the people who pay taxes when you have nothing to show for spending their money is "folly" as well.

    Informing the public, providing copies, is their durn job, that is what WE pay them to do.
    Double dipping to block opening your books ain't gonna cut it
  12. deceptions
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    deceptions - February 29, 2012 11:26 am
    uh oh Jay...

    "a thousand dollars a page"

    what a joke. I'll line it out for you how any person with a minor understanding of legal obligation would view the situation.

    The Port wants to cover its behind when they release documents. As such, it requires legal review to ensure compliance with redactions etc. Legal fees are extensive. As such, the bill for releasing thousands of pages of documents which is being required by the loons at SC should be equally high.

    I just don't get your MO sir
  13. GoodGrief
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    GoodGrief - February 28, 2012 6:06 pm
    Wow...the usual suspects are out in force acting like the Port charging $8.00 a page to provide public documents is reasonable...even $1.29 a page is too much for me - if you all went to the county for your tax records and they charged you $8.00 a page, you'd be rioting in the streets. What a bunch of hypocrites.
  14. kstreet
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    kstreet - February 28, 2012 4:25 pm
    Before y'all get too set on the Port being "corrupt," keep in mind this gem:

    http://dailycaller.com/2012/02/04/sierra-club-took-26-million-from-natural-gas-lobby-to-battle-coal-industry/

    We're all corrupt, it's just a matter of how much.
  15. mctubbs
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    mctubbs - February 28, 2012 4:21 pm
    So at $.20 a copy for 2500 pages that leaves $2715 left. How much per hour do we pay the port employees? If its going to take 45 hours to copy and censor the "private" info out that leaves us with $45 per hour for an administrative assistant. Really? I love how our tax dollars are spent.
  16. Sherman
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    Sherman - February 28, 2012 4:10 pm
    I don't agree with the taxpayers having to foot the bill for someone else's folly. You want the documents? Pay the fee.

    Maybe Frazer should pick up the difference.

    And Jaye aka "Kay" - you need to get some therapy about your piglet/teat obsession. Seriously - get some help.
  17. Kay
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    Kay - February 28, 2012 3:45 pm
    And all the ORC 'boys' in their matching outfits ain't gonna change that fact.

    Thank you Jody, when you're right, you're right.
  18. Kay
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    Kay - February 28, 2012 3:45 pm
    The issue is: This Port has conducted itself in a manner to block any and all attempts to find out the truth about what they are doing behind closed doors. Don't forget, you are NOT allowed to ask them questions at their PUBLIC MEETINGS, and charging a thousand dollars a page is nothing more than obstructionism. They've been doing it for decades.

    Deceptions? You got a good reason why it costs this Port a thousand dollars a page? THAT is some redacting !

    Party is over 'boys'.
  19. deceptions
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    deceptions - February 28, 2012 3:30 pm
    geez common sense, where do you get these things? everything is a scam huh?
  20. Orygun
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    Orygun - February 28, 2012 2:56 pm
    I didn't know we had a 4th Judge in this district?
  21. Common Sense
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    Common Sense - February 28, 2012 2:42 pm
    Truth & Justice isn't cheap...

    What you afraid of Port commissioner's??? Anyone smell something that hidden between the layers of Corruption??? Where's the Governor on all this Tax payer's nightmare spending$$$ (Hidden secret deals/SCAMS that the majority don't want or approve of like Exporting LNG, COAL, etc etc.) before his time???

    Bottomline: Key words are *Public reports* & *appeals* = *Democratic process*...if you like it or NOT Oregon GoodOleBoys!!!
  22. GetItRight
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    GetItRight - February 28, 2012 2:36 pm
    Just like the Stufflebean Recall. He would make outlandish statements and then if the average citizen wants to follow through and check on them, it cost you an arm and leg to get the true facts from the county.
  23. deceptions
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    deceptions - February 28, 2012 2:25 pm
    here is the issue:

    The sierra club is asking for massive quantities of records. Many of these records contain confidential or sensitive material that the port is legally required to redact. As such it will require extensive man hours to compile, and further legal review to maintain legality and avoid persecution.

    There is more here than meets the unkeen eye ladies and germs.
  24. Kay
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    Kay - February 28, 2012 1:59 pm
    Listen to the piglets squeal, they don't like sharing.
  25. penelop
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    penelop - February 28, 2012 1:30 pm
    Trying to charge $20,000 for copies of public information documents shows me that the Port is overcharging to discourage anyone from finding out what they are hiding. Good call, Mr. Frasier.
  26. coosbayite
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    coosbayite - February 28, 2012 1:28 pm
    Attorney's fees? Somebody has a portion of their anatomy stuck somewhere else on their person it shouldn't be. Why would anyone pay an attorney fee for public documents?
  27. Sherman
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    Sherman - February 28, 2012 1:09 pm
    I don't know about Frazer's legal skills, but he's clearly bad at math.
  28. deceptions
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    deceptions - February 28, 2012 12:08 pm
    is this within the DA's jurisdiction?

    How does this benefit tax payers of our county?

    This is pretty strange.
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