Detour ahead: Neighbors fume over new route

By Alexander Rich, Staff Writer
Wednesday, June 10, 2009 | 22 comment(s)

Water line project brings traffic worries to surface

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COOS BAY - The window in Dolores Salcedo's living room rattled Monday afternoon. A sport utility vehicle zoomed past; its stereo bass thumping. The retired nurse sighed and said that's just a hint of what it's been like the past week and a half on Eighth Terrace.

"They roar down here like it's a speedway at night," she said. 

The shady side street has seen a lot more use since the Coos Bay-North Bend Water Board closed North 10th Street to replace an aging water main on May 29. Water board and city officials looked at a number of alternative routes, and eventually opted to guide drivers along Eighth Terrace.

Neighbors understand the Water Board needs to keep its pipes in good order. Some just think the road is ill suited for more traffic, noting that vehicles often must slow down, or pull aside, before they can pass each other.

One neighbor, Sarah Crawford, spoke to the City Council last week, arguing the street is narrow enough to be considered a single-lane road, which requires a 15 mph speed limit.

The road doesn't have a center line, but it is wide enough for two lanes of traffic, said Capt. Gary McCullough of Coos Bay police. Even so, workers posted  several temporary signs urging motorists to slow down and obey the temporary 15-mph speed limit.

That's helped some, said Robert Cribbins, who lives in an apartment on the corner of Eighth Terrace and Eighth Street. But many drivers are still speeding. It's hard for him to get upset, though, because he knows the police have their hands full, and if not Eighth Terrace, some other street would be dealing with more traffic.

It's a balancing act between limiting the disturbance to neighbors while not making the detour too confusing for motorists, said Water Board Director Rob Schab. Engineers from both the Water Board and the city of Coos Bay looked at various options, all in residential areas, before deciding on Eighth Terrace. It is the shortest detour route, compared to going over Telegraph Hill, up behind Mingus Park or out to Highway 101.

"City staff and the Water Board are hearing neighbors' concerns," Schab said. "If we can alleviate some problems we certainly will."

Neighbors have made adjustments. One resident drives very slowly down the road, serving as his own personal speed bump, he said. Another makes sure not to let her dog out of the house if she's not with her.

Harry Devi has his children play in the backyard, though he isn't too worried about the work and the resulting traffic. He wondered how many people complaining about the traffic will be complaining about their water pressure once the Water Board gets done.

"I think it's going to improve things overall," he said.

The Water Board is replacing a 14-inch main line that is about 60 years old and has suffered about four breaks in the past 10 years, Schab said. With Coos Bay planning to repave 10th Street later this year, it seemed like a good time to put in a new pipe.

"It was very timely that we got in there and got it done," he said.

The Water Board is scheduled to complete its work by July 17, though Schab said the project is a bit ahead of schedule.

What Salcedo is worried about is that once the work crews leave, drivers will continue to use the route. Although it hasn't happened, she predicts that the route is ripe for an accident.

"It just seems like Eighth Terrace is being bombarded," she said.

Capt. McCullough said there haven't been any accidents reported and no speeding tickets issued on Eighth Terrace since the Water Board closed 10th Street.

Eighth Terrace should avoid major disruptions the next time 10th Street gets a facelift. The city plans to repave the road in the early part of September, said Public Works Director Jim Hossley. A contractor hasn't been hired, but Hossley said workers will probably be able to keep open one lane of traffic on 10th Street and complete the project more quickly than the Water Board work.

"I'm not anticipating we will have detours," he said.
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dan milburn wrote on Jun 14, 2009 8:41 AM:

If everybody and their friends could just please show up with some shovels this job would be over sooner!

orecoast007 wrote on Jun 13, 2009 8:20 PM:

How about some cheese with that wine?

Duck wrote on Jun 13, 2009 10:32 AM:

Really? REALLY?

Barack Obama wrote on Jun 12, 2009 4:30 PM:

I am going to drive down that road everyday now. I will go as fast as possible and play my music as loud as possible. When they come out to yell at me I will burn out and circle the block and do it again. Seriously, we should all do it. Then they will see what their crying gets them.

Ya-SO! wrote on Jun 11, 2009 11:50 AM:

Ok......Honestly? I understand that Coos Bay is a couple hours from any metropolitian city. I hope I can educate some Coos Bay-ians with this lesson. When a road has to be closed for repairs and to replace a water main, like this story, an alternate route has made so the flow of traffic can be sustained.
I dont see why anyone is complaining? Would you like to park your car and walk through the construction? Stop complaining about having to take a detour. Boo-Hoo.
And if the residents living on 8th are worried about people speeding, butt out. The people driving down these streets are ADULTS and can take responsibilty for their actions. This isnt NASCAR people, debris from accidents on 8th will not be fyling through your house windows but im sure the inside of your house will smell like a NASCAR arena: Beer, burnt rubber, and hopeless dreams of driving fast.

Just Me wrote on Jun 11, 2009 8:21 AM:

One more comment here and I'm done on this stupid subject, I believe all this "advertising" and "complaining" that is gaining soooo much attention is what is really causing alot of this excess traffic! Why, because everybody that reads all of this stuff turns into looky loos and wants to go see whats going on. So, they take that detour to take a look! If the World stops reporting this as Front Page News and the neighbors shut up about it maybe it will slow down a bit!

The Brutal Truth wrote on Jun 11, 2009 7:32 AM:

HEY ITS ME,

I would hope that lawsuit would get tossed out, since it would really be nobody's fault but the drivers involved if there were an accident.

Afterall, the city isn't FORCING you to go that way. You could always chose a different (albeit longer) route.

hey its me wrote on Jun 10, 2009 6:26 PM:

Whoever decided that there is enough for 2 vehicles to pass each other needs to learn to measure. The cars parked on the street need to be moved. There is not enough room. I was there when an truck and a school bus needed to pass each other and could not. When someone hits me I am going to get a lawyer and have a lawsuit filed against the city. Then maybe things will be done as they should. If the city would have gone about this properly in the first place all this ** wouldn't be going on. Move the parked cars.

Mr E wrote on Jun 10, 2009 10:48 AM:

Boo hoo, folks.

Try living on Virginia in North Bend, D Street in Eastside, or near Southwestern in Englewood. You'd probably be singing a different tune, then, about noise and traffic.

CBRezident wrote on Jun 10, 2009 7:51 AM:

Alright aready,We get the picture.One story is enough.This isnt that big of a deal,its construction it happens everywhere and you never hear this much buzz over it.

The Brutal Truth wrote on Jun 10, 2009 7:09 AM:

The photo the world chose to run with this article is great. Here's a dump truck AND a school bus passing one another.

Oh yeah, TOTALLY a single-lane street.

Rebecca1 wrote on Jun 9, 2009 9:11 PM:

I grew up in that neighborhood in the 50's & 60's, I feel your pain,hopefully they will get a necessary job done quickly so all will benefit. Those people that built the Kingdom Halls in North Bend in 8 days & passed the inspections might still be available? They sure know how to get past the time & money wasters, also noticed all of the homes on 8th Terrace are Not being kept up as well as they used too? Help!!

Action Jackson wrote on Jun 9, 2009 8:22 PM:

I could not let this one go by without commenting. If you do not like traffic move to the country. But then again I am sure you would blame the farmers for dust and how it impairs your life style. Guess what? You are not the only people who matter here. You impair my life style everyday by your ignorant complaining. I am really surprised this made the front page of the paper. It is construction people, it is a much needed water line. The people on this street will benefit from the new water line. Quit parking your cars on the street so cars can pass and maybe they would go slower instead of racing to get by to let the oncoming cars pass... Stop your WHINING!!!!!!!!!

citizen wrote on Jun 9, 2009 8:03 PM:

Wow! What a bunch of complainers! I live on Ross Inlet road and for years now have had to put up with truck traffic diverted because of the bridge falling apart between Eastside and Bunker Hill. Give me a brake! Maybe you should spend a day in the country and see what it's like to have all this truck traffic at your front door.

Gene wrote on Jun 9, 2009 6:00 PM:

We live in the country on one of those roads that are posted 25 MPH and deal with cars doing 50 on a regular basis. Those loud bass speakers are heard in the middle of the night along with noisy mufflers. We have tried to get changes with no luck at all. At least those people on the detour will get some relief when the water board is finished. We won't get any relief because the laws aren't enforced in this area when it comes to these problems. Even the four wheelers running down the road doing 50 can't be stopped because they can't "catch" them while they are doing it. Oh, and video tapes of it won't work either. I would be happy to trade our "race track" traffic for theirs if they would like. They just don't know how lucky they are.

tbucket wrote on Jun 9, 2009 3:57 PM:

You should try living on South 4th St. where the traffic is like the Indy 500 all of the time. Sometimes it takes 10 minutes to get out of our driveways.....every day! I had to drive down your street the other day and someone yelled at me in a horrible voice to Slow Down! I was probably doing all of 10 mph if that! Just take a deep breath and relax. Traffic is getting worse all over!

Boo Baby wrote on Jun 9, 2009 3:19 PM:

She makes sure not to let her dog out of the house if she's not with her. See? Some good came from this

Just Me wrote on Jun 9, 2009 2:40 PM:

Why in the world would people continue to use that stupid detour once the work is done? That statement just doesn't make since to me Ms. Salcedo. Do any of you living on that street realize that it is an inconvenience to us also?

braindead wrote on Jun 9, 2009 2:09 PM:

I feel for the people on eighth terrace. I live on southwest interstate in Englewood district. I have talked with city officials and police to try to get traffic slowed down in this area. I work for a living and don't get to go to the city council meetings, but I believe after reading about your concerns I will persue my delema more.

GS wrote on Jun 9, 2009 1:15 PM:

Boo Hoo. Such a tale of woe. Do the residents on this street who drive everywhere consider the impact of their automobile usage? Probably not. The only persons who have a legitimate complaint about automobile traffic are those persons who do not own cars.

The Brutal Truth wrote on Jun 9, 2009 11:46 AM:

DEAL WITH IT!

NB_Rez wrote on Jun 9, 2009 11:42 AM:

That's absolutely ridiculous to think that drivers will continue to use the detour once the work has been completed. It has never been a heavily traveled road before, so no reason to think this little detour will open up as a major thoroughfair. I understand the frustration, but those ppl need to get a grip.


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