Coos Bay schools cut 16 teachers

By Alexander Rich, Staff Writer
Saturday, April 11, 2009 | 56 comment(s)

Two administrators also are among 26 being laid off; athletics loses a third of its budget

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COOS BAY - Coos Bay school officials announced plans Friday to lay off 26 employees in the face of a $4 million shortfall for next school year.

The cuts include 16 teachers from Millicoma Intermediate School, Sunset Middle School and Marshfield High School, and two administrators. The district also is looking at cuts to the budget for maintenance, technology and the athletic department by as much as one-third.

Even with the cuts, district officials expect to fall short of filling the budget gap. Business Manager Rod Danielson said part of the reason the district is announcing these cuts is to get input from school employees on how to find another $600,000 in cuts for next year.

"These decisions have been difficult," he said. "These (next decisions) are going to be even tougher."

The district's also in the midst of contract negotiations with classified and certified employee groups. If neither group reaches an agreement by the end of the school year, it would result in automatic 1.5 to 2 percent raises and extension of insurance, which could mean even more cuts.

Superintendent Bob De La Vergne said his funding priority is to maintain programs for elementary school students. The only position eliminated at the lower schools was a vice principal who splits time between Blossom Gulch Elementary School and Millicoma.

"K through 4, we held them harmless," he said.

Classroom sizes at the elementary schools will remain between 24 and 26. Students at the other district schools will average about 30 students per classroom, De La Vergne said. The student to teacher ratio at Millicoma and Sunset was around 23 this year, he said, though it was skewed because of music and PE specialists. Most classes had about 29 he said. The high school averages 26 students in each classroom this year.

De La Vergne went school to school Friday, during a teacher inservice day, to break the news to staff at each school facing cuts except Marshfield.

At 3:30 p.m., a group of angry Marshfield teachers crowded into the school district office building to confront De La Vergne. They asked him to negotiate with their union and consider a four-day school week and cutting days - before eliminating so many positions.

Teachers said the cuts could lead to class-size averages at the high school as high as 37 students.

"I feel like I'm in limbo," said Josh Line, who teaches careers and global studies classes.

He told De La Vergne he really wants to stay here and raise his family, but he thinks he might be one of the teachers targeted.

It's up to each school building to decide what positions are cut, De La Vergne said, which he expects them to do within the next two weeks.

The administrative cut is from Marshfield. There also are plans to remove an educational assistant from Marshfield, two from special education, a maintenance worker, an IT specialist and a technology employee.

These cuts come after the district laid off seven secretaries, three custodians and a security officer mid-year.

De La Vergne said he would ask the school board to delay a budget committee meeting until May 20. That way the district should have better state budget estimates to come up with their numbers.
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Employee wrote on Apr 20, 2009 12:39 PM:

To all of you with your opinions you truly have no idea how difficult it is to go to work everyday with the idea of losing your job looming over your head, while still keeping a "happy" face for our students. We are ALL their for your children: Licensed, classified, admins and coaches! Why else would we go to work everyday?

The Brutal Truth wrote on Apr 19, 2009 7:20 PM:

Yes, there IS a savings on a 4-day week. It just comes at the expense of the Classified employees' (you know, the ones that stand around leaning on a broom or shovel all day, right?) pay & benefits.

Not too mention a longer school day for kids.

WTF wrote on Apr 19, 2009 10:55 AM:

They're cutting funds from TAG? That is absurd. If it wasn't for tag trips (subsidized by students) I'd probably still be stuck in Coos Bay rather than off at college getting a degree. TAG is one of the most important programs that district has. That program is for the brightest and most promising students, ones that often get overlooked in the face of sports. Mr. Peter's TAG English class is hands down the best English class in that school taught by one of the best teachers there.

To MHS Senior wrote on Apr 19, 2009 10:41 AM:

It's a well known fact that most knowledge obtained is at a younger age. Anyone studying to be a teacher (which I am) is taught this so it is very encouraging that the Superintendent is willing to keep these key learning years intact for students.

shoot wrote on Apr 18, 2009 11:10 PM:

Ok you guys its not about the dang sports is ABOUT THE 16 TEACHERS WHO LOST THEIR JOBS. I just hope like hell they dont keep the crappy teacher, which I know for a fact they are letting go one high school teacher (mr.hill) who is great with the children and CARES about them. If every teacher was like him our kids would always want to be at school. He gives the children so much encouragement.Just the way he teaches I was shock. He had me. I want other people who dont believe me to have the chance I had to sit in his class. As I took the day to check out my daughter teachers I wonder how do some of them even teach they're so far out and burn out in their jobs No wonder the kids dont want to show up. So I think the Union should really sit into the classrooms and really chose the right teacher to go and I feel Mr. Hill shouldn't be one of them. Lets get rid of the teacher who are going to retire with in the next year. It will save on the next hiring.

get real on a 4 day school week wrote on Apr 18, 2009 3:10 PM:

If I am right I believe that teachers would still get paid the same whether it be a 4 day week or a 5 day week, so there is no savings there.

A teacher wrote on Apr 17, 2009 5:41 PM:

Hi Tanner, bad teacher here.

Actually, I'm really good and my students think I rock.

Anyway, if you've ever looked a Praxis teacher exam, you might not be so glib in your assessment. But, once again, this forum is open to anyone with a computer.

Tanner H wrote on Apr 17, 2009 5:37 PM:

To 'The Brutal Truth',

Easy on the assumptions, buddy. Nobody is 'elated' to see anyone losing their jobs.

The reality is that a shrinking tax base combined with an increasing gov't budget causes budget deficits. Not sure if you were aware of that.

And, YES, public employees unions DO belly up to the taxpayer trough.

I hate to see good teachers lose their jobs, but they should be angry at the DOE in Salem and their precious Union for putting us in this mess. NOT private citizens who are tired of being treated like an ATM for special-interest.

Tanner H wrote on Apr 17, 2009 5:30 PM:

And, ironically, I care enough about education that I'm a better reader than you.

I did not say anything about a 'tax' on teachers. What I said was 'ax'.

As in it is about time gov't employees started getting the ax.

Oh, and for your information, experience in athletics DOES increase a person's chance of gaining employment. That too has been proven.

You need to take a look at an actual school district's budget, educate yourself, THEN you might sound less ignorant.

Tanner H wrote on Apr 17, 2009 5:26 PM:

To 'CB Mom',

You have kids. You want a medal?

The point I am making is that it is foolish to attack sports when it is such a small portion of a school district' budget. AND athletics have been PROVEN to improve academic performance, self-esteem, fitness, and numerous other benefits.

You are implying that by supporting athletics, someone like me is against education.

You could not be more wrong.

WorkInNB wrote on Apr 16, 2009 8:39 PM:

I work for NB School District and I'd like to know what is going on. We hear a $3,000,000 cut but we have no idea what and who are being cut. I'd rather know than have to worry. Come on BJ let us in on what cuts are going to happen!

Stinky de C. wrote on Apr 16, 2009 7:46 PM:

The answer may be:
1) Salary freeze across the board
2) 4 day week
3) cut days ( even though Professional development days are mandated teachers could opt to refund pay for those days rather than a district-wide salary decrease)
4) When the money is gone- close school down just like business or even our state legislators do.
5) Don't sweat accredidation- if the state won't fund the system what validity does state accredidation have? (from a philosophical argument of course)
These may not save every job, but every TAXPAYER saved avoids a double hit in taxes lost.

North Bend wrote on Apr 15, 2009 10:26 PM:

It is interesting that we haven't heard anything from North Bend SD. I've been reading about school districts all over the state going through the same cuts that Coos Bay is going through, cutting staff, cutting days, looking at the 4 day week. Coos Bay has had public meetings, they are on Channel 14 discussing issues that should be talked about in the open. Why aren't we hearing anything from North Bend? Surely they to are affected by the economy. These discussions must be happening, what are they hiding? Why all the secrecy?

Alan Pettit wrote on Apr 15, 2009 4:13 PM:

So, Coos Bay must lay off 26 employees over a paltry $4m shortfall. Paltry, you ask? You bet, considering seven (7) executives at AIG received $4m or more in bonuses - courtesy of the U.S. taxpayer. And these were not people who were in danger of losing their homes or watching their schools collapse. These are people with a home in the Hamptons, a penthouse on 5th Ave. and a condo in Miami Beach. In addition, consider this: the federal government pays bonuses to its employees too. And this year it plans to hand out about $1.6 billion of bonuses, despite running more than $1 trillion in the red.

If you're not mad as hell and thoroughly convinced that this is the most corrupt Congress in the history of America, you're not paying attention. Instead of pushing back on Bob De La Vergne, the teacher's union should be in D.C. beating on doors and thumping on tables, demanding responsible spending and intelligent prioritization. Unfortunately, a long history of collusion between Dems and Unions tells me that's not going to happy anytime soon.

alyamh wrote on Apr 15, 2009 1:53 PM:

don't cut the teachers! just lengthen the breaks and mabey shorten the school hours or something

cb mom wrote on Apr 15, 2009 1:10 PM:

Tanner:

#1: I do have kids.
#2: They are more worried about what career path they choose and the ability to succeed in that than in whether or not they play sports.
#3: I played sports in HS and know that the minimum GPA is 2.0 to play and I know that some teachers just give the kids a grade so they can play...

Knowing how to play baseball, football or soccer is not going to get them a job when they are older, their education will.
This district needs to concentrate on the neccessities: EDUCATING OUR CHILDREN.
Oh and what does taxing the government employess have anything to do with it? They pay taxes just like myself and you, I hope...

SPORTS wrote on Apr 15, 2009 10:08 AM:

One more thing...IF YOU KIDS SUCK AT SPORTS, THEY WOULDN'T PLAY!!!! and more then likely...they DON'T!!!!!!!!!!!

SPORTS wrote on Apr 15, 2009 9:57 AM:

Yes 2.0 GPA is good if a kid has a hard time in the class room...and YES I know a lot of kids that have earned their way into collage through sports...some kids SUCK at academics and shine like STARS in sports...so why take a kids FUTURE away from them if it's their ONLY way to get into collage?!...so I say KEEP SPORTS because it builds corrector...it's a fantastic learning tool as well ...kids look up to their coaches when they don't have someone to look up to at home or in the class room!!! SPORTS gives them confidence in self pride...

CUTTING SPORTS isn't going to SAVE a teacher!! What are you going to demand next?! Cut the cheer team because they have NOTHING to cheer about!! OH and while your at it you might as well demand cutting band too!! any thing else that has nothing to do with EDUCATION??? Let me think???...UMMM...the SECURITY....Who needs them? They have nothing to do with EDUCATION!!!

The Brutal Truth wrote on Apr 15, 2009 7:42 AM:

RESIDENT:

Yes, TPP is still a part of the district.

To everybody else: Every time the schools have to cut jobs, some of you almost seem elated that these folks are going to be losing their jobs. I don't get it.

I know you all think all public employees just belly up to the trough and gobble up tax dollars. And I guess thats cool, go ahead and tell yourself whatever you need to in order to feel good about people losing their jobs.

to I have kids in the system wrote on Apr 14, 2009 2:39 PM:

I would be glad to drive my kids to sporting events. No problem. It is that important to me that my kids have a well rounded childhood, both in the class and out. But I also could say to a statement like that:
If you want your kids fed, feed them yourself....I pay for other people's kids to have a meal at school, that is part of the whole process and how it works so I think bussing my kids to events is a very very small part of the budget. Plus I pay $100 for each kid to participate and I've paid for other kids' fee so they could play too if they couldn't affort it plue I work the booster club to help out raising money. Do you honestly think by cutting a bus ride or two a week is going to save jobs, hardly!

To Sports yes I do have kids in Dist 9 wrote on Apr 14, 2009 12:23 PM:

REEEAALLLY? "Just because your kid sucks at sports I say keep sports because that way my kid can get into college"
I think NOT, do you know the stats on how many kids actually get a sports scholarship? And if you think 2.0 GPA is "good grades" you compromise too much.

SPORTS wrote on Apr 14, 2009 10:25 AM:

It seems to me that when people start talking about cutting the budget they always say CUT THE SPORTS!!!! Do you have kids?! I bet not....some kids only go to school for the sports...that's how most of them get into collage...and by the way you have to have good grades to play any sport, if you have kids, you would know that!!....I think the people on here were never good enough to play sports so that's why they always say CUT THE SPORTS!!!!

I like the 4day/week idea....it gives kids more time to be with family and friends..

Tanner H wrote on Apr 14, 2009 9:10 AM:

To 'A Teacher',

Your comments are asinine and inherently biased.

You are implying that a typical teacher can go out and pass the Bar exam. That's ridiculous.

Most teachers, sad to say, are teachers because they like job security and lack ambition. Sad but true.

I am ALL FOR paying good teachers a TON. But, first, we have to get rid of the bad teachers, like you.

Tanner H wrote on Apr 14, 2009 9:08 AM:

To 'CB Mom' and morons like you,

Take three minutes to pull your head out and actually LOOK at a school
s budget.

Athletics is a TINY fraction of the school budget that has a HUGE impact. Just because your kid sucks at sports, doesn't mean you should be tearing others down.

It is about time gov't employees started getting the ax.

Resident wrote on Apr 14, 2009 9:08 AM:

Is the teen parent program still intact?

I have kids in the system wrote on Apr 14, 2009 8:34 AM:

"To cut sports not teachers wrote on Apr 13, 2009 4:10 PM:

You obviously don't have kids in school or in sports. Cutting sports is not the answer. It does benefit kids a lot more than you will ever know or you would not make sure an ignorant statment."
Easy throwing the ignorant statement around!!
Maybe cutting sports IS the answer, why call it EDUCATION if only a few are benefitted? The buses to events alone would save money, if the parents want them to play sports, let them drive the players to events!!!

Rocco St.Bruno wrote on Apr 13, 2009 9:15 PM:

Now that is a government decision I can live with.

annie wrote on Apr 13, 2009 8:59 PM:

good Lord why don't the TOP ones get their act together and KNOW we need the teachers and helpers a heck of a lot more then the fat cats sitting on their behinds in the administrative offices--supposedly making WISE decisions and wondering how much more salery and benifits they can assign to themselves--give me a break and get serious we need ALL our teachers etc not more administration??????

dothemath wrote on Apr 13, 2009 7:51 PM:

Please do your research before pointing the finger of blame. We are not alone in our plight. Schools across America are facing the same challenges we are and making some hard decisions. In simplistic terms, the federal govt. gives money to the state, the state adds funds and decides how much of the total goes to education. They give this amount to the state dept. of education who then disperses the funds to the local schools districts based on a "formula" using student enrollment numbers. The superintendent, school board, and involved community members then create the district budget which can be viewed by anyone. They ask for public comment before making their decisions. Our local district is doing the best they can with limited funds. If you have any productive suggestions, please share them! How can you help? Contact the Federal & State govt. and ask them to release more funds for Education! Make our kids a priority!

cb mom wrote on Apr 13, 2009 7:12 PM:

they need to cut the sports programs and all the extra stuff and concentrate on educating our children! Enough is enough.

a teacher wrote on Apr 13, 2009 4:20 PM:

What a shame: It is called competition. If you underpay teachers, say compared to a job with equivalent schooling, what will the worker choose: $30,000 to teach or $75,000 a year to work with technology or being a lawyer?

Also, people, the 4-day week is the same amount of contact hours, longer days is the key. I think sometimes people are more worried about who is going to babysit their children.

BTW, if you break it down, each child in a class is paying less than $1 per hour for babysitting, let alone the learning. It's a good deal if you've ever priced child care.

To cut sports not teachers wrote on Apr 13, 2009 4:10 PM:

You obviously don't have kids in school or in sports. Cutting sports is not the answer. It does benefit kids a lot more than you will ever know or you would not make sure an ignorant statment.

HOW DARE YOU wrote on Apr 13, 2009 4:04 PM:

I would actually be willing to pay sales tax ro more taxes as long as I knew where that money was going and it was going to the schools. I would not, however, pay more taxes just so our greedy administrative people could get more money!!!!

What a Shame wrote on Apr 13, 2009 1:34 PM:

One main reason our school system is the way it is is because of all the greedy overpaid school employees. Not all of them, but why cut your own throat. Keep requesting and getting pay raises, more benifits, more everything and finially the pot runs dry and YOU cannot understand. Folks this is reality. Something you have been out of touch with since you began working for just about any school district. Do like the rest of us do, LIVE WITHIN YOUR BUDGET. You do that and see how easy things are. With all the districts whinning about wanting more and more money all the time, it is no wonder people like me have turned against supporting school districts. We as taxpayers are taxed out. It isn't because we do not want good schools and teachere, it is because we just can't afford all you are asking for anymore. Get a grip. Layoffs are reallity, welcome to the real world.

Help wrote on Apr 13, 2009 11:56 AM:

I seriously want to know what we can do to help/change or do anything about this situation? Please if somebody has an idea... Please tell me. I can't sit back and continue to let my children suffer with this ridiculously ran school dist. If we have to MOVE WE WILL!!

Recall wrote on Apr 13, 2009 11:55 AM:

Well since we are so good at recalls in this town. I say lets RECALL the Super!! What is wrong with this dist?!?! Seriously. They are just making CB into a ghost town. Only the elderly in their retirement homes will be left! SALES TAX PEOPLE!! SALES TAX!

To the Editor wrote on Apr 13, 2009 9:10 AM:

Why do we have to read about the potential cut of NB's virtual academy in the Register-Guard? Come on! Report it while there is still time to contact our legislators.

Iwanttoknow wrote on Apr 12, 2009 8:51 PM:

Iwttk: Where is the hue and cry for someones head! Will there be a petition filed for the removal of a involved for these 'great' teachers, et al dismissals? During budget cuts, no job is secure, public or private. That is why I question the Recall petitioners of Kevin Stufflebean! What part of budget cuts do you not understand!! This is my opinion and I'm sticking to it! Bye I would bet these discharges are well educated and will be able to find other positions, then I don't know.

Moving to NB wrote on Apr 12, 2009 7:59 PM:

Makes sense, lets cut teachers, keep athletics, just cut them a little, oh and can't forget about cutting funds from the talented and gifted program. This district is nuts. I have 2 kids in the CB district and am thinking about moving to NB because of this budget mess. Someone needs to get their head out of the sand and wake-up. What's more important, a kids education or making sure they can play football or baseball?

kidsfirst wrote on Apr 12, 2009 1:36 PM:

Way to let the kids know they actually count! Nice prioritizing!

MHS Senior wrote on Apr 12, 2009 12:43 PM:

Im surprised to hear the Superintendents thoughts on this subject. In my mind, I was thinking that the priority should be preserving the High School system rather than the elementary system. I know of a few teachers that teach key senior classes that are in trouble of being relocated to the Junior High school. I know that these teachers i have in mind are of much better use teaching seniors that choose to be in the class rather than 8th graders that are forced to be. All around, its horrible to see our School system disintegrating and all I can be thankful for is that my High School career wasn't plagued by these same casualties.

Why wrote on Apr 12, 2009 12:04 PM:

Why did the school district budget $750,000 for athletics in the first place?

You already exclude those students who cannot pay so why not privitize athletics and keep some teachers in the classroom?

Mike Millan wrote on Apr 12, 2009 11:36 AM:

These cuts hurt so many people. Not just the teachers' and their families but the students as well. Going to MHS Tuesday and seeing 7 teachers gone is a devastating amount for Marshfield. Plus the 5 Sunset and 4 Millicoma Teachers, that is intense. Not to mention the programs that will be cut as well. That will probably hurt the schools' the most. Well what ever the future holds in store for the staff and schools' is way above me but I hope the final decisions can be a little less painful, but I doubt it will.

Michael wrote on Apr 12, 2009 9:55 AM:

And to think a 1 million dollar visitors center is being built while important community members are going jobless.

The price of 1 worthless visitors center would be more than enough to cover the new proposed program cuts, which equal: $447,700.

Mom of student wrote on Apr 12, 2009 9:43 AM:

I would like to know if the super of district 9 is planning on teaching school next year. How are our children going to get a proper educations with so many kids in class. The teacher will just be crowd control.

HOW DARE YOU wrote on Apr 12, 2009 8:33 AM:

This is ABSOLUTELY ridiculous and not okay!!!! I am sure that cuts could be made elsewhere. I can not believe that we continue to cut from our schools and then wonder why our children aren't getting a good education. And to any of you who want to talk crap about my opinion, you must not have kids in the public school system. This is absolutely obsurd!!!!!!

SAD wrote on Apr 12, 2009 12:18 AM:

It is very sad to think that our government will bail out big banks and big auto companies, but our schools are suffering like this. If we cannot provide a good education to our students then they will be facing the same dilemmas, perhaps worse when they are adults. A good education not only leads to good jobs, but allows our children to become the thinkers, innovators, inventors, creators, and policy makers that can change things and make progress. If their education suffers then the future of our entire country suffers. Yes, we may have to go back to the basics, and previous leaders were educated with much less than what we have today, but the best economic stimulus might be one that invests in education now so we don't face a similar crisis 20-30 years from now. Let's all be a part of the solution--attend meetings, share your ideas, write your congressmen and women, help at your child's school, your grandchild's school, or even just your alma mater! Together as a community we can make a difference just by donating time to our schools.

Keith Fyten wrote on Apr 11, 2009 9:40 PM:

The teachers wanted to propose a four day school week to save their jobs??? Wow, I guess desperate times call for desperate measures, but what about the students who are losing a day of education each week??? Or is it just all about the money to those teachers? I agree the teachers shouldn't lose their jobs in the first place, but a four day school week is ridiculous. There has to be another way.

dothemath wrote on Apr 11, 2009 8:24 PM:

Even with these proposed cuts our district is still in the "red". The four day week and cut days will just barely get us out of the red for the next year (and we still lose 16 positions!). More money is needed. In order to save teachers, nurses, and classified staff's jobs we need IMMEDIATE action from our government. PLEASE email/call our State and Federal Government with your concerns!
Education is the future of America!

Mikey wrote on Apr 11, 2009 5:59 PM:

What, no cuts to special education? Let's cut the gifted and talented who someday might come up with a solution to this problem.

Cut Sports Not Teachers. wrote on Apr 11, 2009 2:08 PM:

Too few students benefit from Basketball and Football. Go back to P.E. for all students, dump sports teams. We need teachers not the elitist athletes.

Carl wrote on Apr 11, 2009 1:53 PM:

It is long overdue to replace the school districts in Coos County with
a county wide educational cooperative.
The Superintendant should be an elected official with an active license or credential to teach.
Administration would be limited to providing the resources for the schools and staff, with the principles, teachers and parents in charge.

angry Coos Bay resident wrote on Apr 11, 2009 10:51 AM:

Isn't it time we combine school districts? It just doesn't make any sense. We would save enormous amounts of money by having one superintendent, one school board, one district office for the Coos Bay/North Bend area. I would rather save a teacher than save a school board member anyday.

CB Employee wrote on Apr 11, 2009 10:16 AM:

There is a pretty major correction that needs to be made to this article. The fact is that only 2 administrators are being cut.

I believe that the reporter was confused because there are 2 employees at the Administration Building that are being cut that are classified...not administrators.

One of them is a Computer Technician (not supervisor) and the other an IT Specialist.

I am hoping that everyone doesn't blame the superintendent for these cuts. Where else is the district going to make up 4-5 million dollars? Blame the economy!

Fed up wrote on Apr 11, 2009 9:41 AM:

We could avoid losing precious teachers and other staff if North Bend and Coos Bay school districts would combine and join forces, but the people at the top (school board members and district office administrators) aren't willing to suggest it. It would mean a sacrifice of their own jobs. Isn't it time that we, as a community, demand it!!!!! Enough already!!!!

Lindilou wrote on Apr 11, 2009 9:16 AM:

More and more school districts are cutting back to 4 day weeks. One advantage is one less day per week of lights, heat, etc. so energy costs less. It's one less day that janitorial is needed to clean up afterwards. For those districs supplying their own busses, it's one less day of fuel costs. Probably the best benefit is, while everyone works only 4 days/week, there is less need to cut positions.

Oregon is a state where we end up paying less towards education and more towards corrections. We reap what we sow! District 9 needs to wise up, reconsider the cuts in nursing positions and forget cuts in teachers


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