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Get the facts wrote on Nov 17, 2008 3:21 PM:
For all of you who do not work at RFP, you need to get your facts checked. Every year around the holidays there are layoffs due to the off season. This year just happens to be worse, and making headlines due to the poor economy.Every shift had a meeting, your fault if you didn't attend. That I know as FACT!This is a good chance for RFP to weed out the slow and unproductive and get back on tract with more efficient workers. I agree... Good luck finding a job with these attitudes!
AGREE W CHILLED wrote on Nov 17, 2008 3:12 PM:
Chilled is right on with the facts... as for the Skoog Operators, Im sorry that you cannot find better employment, however, if our economy and mill is to survive, you must be replaced by more efficient workers, and in your case, a skoog bot can do a much better job and cause much fewer problems! Good Luck in Life
Chilled wrote on Nov 16, 2008 10:52 PM:
This article is not about the skoog workers and retraining it is about the Coquille plant escaping layoffs that other RFP plants have already had. For those who want to make it about the curtailed skoog workers stick to the facts. Skoog operators have known for YEARS that the skoog bots would be replacing them, giving them more than ample time to bid onto another job. NONE of the skoog workers have been laid off. There are jobs for them to work IF they want. If they are not willing to work the jobs available to them then they will be quitting thats not the same as laid off.They have the opportunity to take another bid,go into labor pool, bump a redhat off the greenchain. The work is there if they are willing.
To chilled wrote on Nov 16, 2008 1:00 PM:
I see repeatedly where others have asked you your source. Do you work there, or is this 2nd hand info to you? Just trying to weigh your facts vs there's and figure out what is going on. Thanks.
Past wrote on Nov 16, 2008 10:42 AM:
Get prepared it happened in the past years the coquille mills shuts down due to market conditions, get real, we are in a depression and it will last for a long time. Cut up your credit cards, try to get out of debt. Many of us lost every thing we had when the mill closed twice before. If you can not sell the product on the market,you can not keep making it.
OMG wrote on Nov 15, 2008 4:23 PM:
I can not believe how worked up you all have gotten. I was in that meeting and yes we were given the option of retraining. But no one is layed off yet except those who choose to take the training.
Steve Pickering wrote on Nov 15, 2008 11:20 AM:
Chilled,
In trying to defend your statement your credibility is sliding down hill. My wife was at the only meeting involving layoffs. The other posters are correct. There were only 25 employees at the meeting. It did not include the entire plant. Only those who are to be affected. They were told 10 to 15 will be laid off and they will be notified immediately. You may (or may not) have been at a plant wide shift meeting, but you were not at this meeting and seem to have no knowledge of it. Get it through your head, "There are layoffs at Coquille".
It is sad news, but a fact of life in the county at this time.
In trying to defend your statement your credibility is sliding down hill. My wife was at the only meeting involving layoffs. The other posters are correct. There were only 25 employees at the meeting. It did not include the entire plant. Only those who are to be affected. They were told 10 to 15 will be laid off and they will be notified immediately. You may (or may not) have been at a plant wide shift meeting, but you were not at this meeting and seem to have no knowledge of it. Get it through your head, "There are layoffs at Coquille".
It is sad news, but a fact of life in the county at this time.
Chilled wrote on Nov 14, 2008 6:27 PM:
1st off there was a meeting for every employee not only a select 25. The meetings were divided up into shift/work areas of groups of about 20 or so employees
2. A Union rep was present as is required
3. RFP informed workers that during the week of Thanksgiving it would be shutting down for the week to save on costs and decrease inventory.
4. There are 2 paid holiday days during Thanksgiving week
4. RFP informed workers they had contacted Oregon Employment Office and that all employees would be eligible to file a claim and put in a waiting week for the week of Thanksgiving.
5. Workers have not been laid off, they are to return to work the following week.
6. RFP informed workers there could also be a mandatory closure over the Christmas holiday though no specific dates were given
7. There are 4 paid holiday days between Dec 24 and Jan 1 plus 2 unused paid floater days
8. Those who file their claim and put in for their waiting week in Nov will get unemployment benefits for days missed in Dec
9. NOBODY has been laid off in the Coquille plant
2. A Union rep was present as is required
3. RFP informed workers that during the week of Thanksgiving it would be shutting down for the week to save on costs and decrease inventory.
4. There are 2 paid holiday days during Thanksgiving week
4. RFP informed workers they had contacted Oregon Employment Office and that all employees would be eligible to file a claim and put in a waiting week for the week of Thanksgiving.
5. Workers have not been laid off, they are to return to work the following week.
6. RFP informed workers there could also be a mandatory closure over the Christmas holiday though no specific dates were given
7. There are 4 paid holiday days between Dec 24 and Jan 1 plus 2 unused paid floater days
8. Those who file their claim and put in for their waiting week in Nov will get unemployment benefits for days missed in Dec
9. NOBODY has been laid off in the Coquille plant
RFP employee wrote on Nov 14, 2008 11:54 AM:
I was there, and there are layoffs. Chilled, what is your source? Do you work there? Or is this 2nd hand info from someone who does work there? etc?
The Real Story wrote on Nov 14, 2008 9:50 AM:
I don't know who Chilled is, so I don't know if he/she was at the meeting or is just spouting union rhetoric, but I know what went on in the meeting and what Human Resources told everyone. Chilled is in the dark for some reason and is not correctly informed. I have shared inside information which all 25 at the meeting are aware of.
If I am wrong I will come back here and apologize. I am reporting the meeting as best as I know it from the top down, not the bottom up.
If I am wrong I will come back here and apologize. I am reporting the meeting as best as I know it from the top down, not the bottom up.
Chilled wrote on Nov 13, 2008 4:31 PM:
The Real Story is BS. There have been no layoffs. Currently there are redhats (workers with less than 30 days) still working. Those with the least senority are laid off first. Nobody has been informed of any layoff except for the mandatory closure. When a job has been curtailed due to new machinery workers bump back to previously held bid jobs or go into labor pool. If they chose not to work an undesired shift that is quitting not being laid off. Govt paid retraining was offered over 2 years ago to workers cut back then. The most recent new machinery replacing workers is the skoog robots. Skoog workers have known for 2 years they were going in. Some bid onto other jobs before the change the rest were moved to other jobs/shifts and still are working. The only workers leaving have been those fired for not passing a random drug test. Layoffs are probably inevitable if the market/economy doesn't get better but they have not happened yet.
The real story wrote on Nov 13, 2008 7:56 AM:
Here are some of the facts. There were 25 employees in the meeting. They were offered a move to swing shift. One lady said she couldn't do that as she had no babysitter. Th HR said all or none so nobody was going and they would be laid off. The union said she would have a babysitter. Because of new machinery 10 to 15 will lose their jobs. There is a layoff. They just don't know who yet, but the 25 in the room will be affected. All 25 have or will file with the unemployment services. Several elected to take the layoff and get government paid retraining or education and chose to go work elsewhere. That is the real story so take it for what it is worth. Those who say there is no layoff are wrong.
Chilled wrote on Nov 12, 2008 8:28 PM:
Chill out folks! There is no cover up going on nor have there been any layoffs at the Coquille mill as of yet. Mandatory shutdown over the holidays with some of the days paid. Times are tough, the market sucks and some layoffs may be in the plants future but no signs it will be permanent or the mill will be closing down.
Im wondering wrote on Nov 12, 2008 1:16 PM:
why are there no quotes from local management, but instead from HQ in roseburg? I work at this mill and this story doesn't jive with what's really happening (LAYOFFS) here in coquille. Readers deserve the truth.
If it walks like a duck wrote on Nov 12, 2008 9:37 AM:
I smell a coverup here. Those closely associated with RFP know that there are layoff's occuring as we speak at the Coquille facility and that various Coos County agencies are meeting with these laid off folks this week about transition services. Why is RFP having it printed in the paper that nobody is being laid off?
Still Not Sure wrote on Nov 12, 2008 9:08 AM:
Stop the presses. The good news may not hold. There may be about 18 laid off contrary to what was reported. Sad, but stay tuned for more news at 11.
Let Us Pray wrote on Nov 12, 2008 12:40 AM:
Hopefully the Coquille Mill will not have to lay off anyone. Just do not listen to Mr.Opitz and how LNG will create jobs here. (NOT 4 LOCALS)
Tom wrote on Nov 11, 2008 10:18 PM:
Well...they may not be laying anyone off yet but they are going to do some structured closures during Nov and Dec and the employees will be on unemployment for those times. It won't be far off.....the closing.
Steve Pickering wrote on Nov 11, 2008 11:50 AM:
It seems my information was wrong and the poster on another thread was correct. This is good news.
Vonnie wrote on Nov 11, 2008 11:36 AM:
Let's all pray that this doesn't come to pass. This area has so many people without work as it is with the fishing industry the way it is and the logging industry almost gone. These industries are what made our county what it used to be, thriving. And now with the possibility of Roseburg Lumber shutting down, we may as well hang up a closed sign. Hopefully the economy will pick up some how and the housing market will get back on track and things will start to look up for them. Hang in there!
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