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pril wrote on Jul 19, 2008 3:23 PM:
ex-tweaker- meetings are and always have been free for anyone who wants to change their life. Plenty of people kick successfully without inpatient treatment. How bad do you want it?
fed up wrote on Jul 19, 2008 5:28 AM:
cooston how do you know if they are using the libraries computer? or is that some stupid guess? i think this issue is about drugs and not race. there are alot of drug users of every race in coos county
Cooston University wrote on Jul 18, 2008 12:13 PM:
Honestly, proud hispanic and don't matter might want to try using your own PC and stop with posting from the Coos Bay Library - that's tax payers money you're abusing.
DONT MATTER wrote on Jul 17, 2008 11:26 PM:
Hey Coos River, READ THE GUIDELINES SOMETIME!!!!
extweaker wrote on Jul 17, 2008 7:03 PM:
Maybe, if rehabs were offered or mandatory to the meth users before and/or after they have been arrested maybe some of those users might learn something other then using. Ya know some drug addicts hate their life and want out but, no one ever tought them any different or they don't have a residential treatment center they can go to.
DONT MATTER wrote on Jul 17, 2008 3:20 PM:
Hey Coos River, If it had been a WHITE PERSON to you honestly think that same term would have been used. I THINK NOT!!
Coos River wrote on Jul 16, 2008 1:05 PM:
Eastside wrote on Jun 19, 2008 7:52 PM:
"another one bites the dust!"
Those people are like cockroaches; for everyone that gets nailed, two more pop up. How much ya wanna bet Empire is chock full of them?"
What is prejudice about that?
My thought was SPEEDFREAKS?
Are you a little paranoid, DONT MATTER?
"another one bites the dust!"
Those people are like cockroaches; for everyone that gets nailed, two more pop up. How much ya wanna bet Empire is chock full of them?"
What is prejudice about that?
My thought was SPEEDFREAKS?
Are you a little paranoid, DONT MATTER?
DONT MATTER wrote on Jul 15, 2008 3:08 PM:
TO:EASTSIDE JUNE 19th 2008- 7:52pm It sounds as if you have some racial issues and are in desperate need of counseling. May I suggest talking to a local priest. GOD BLESS AND HAVE A GREAT DAY!
Proud Hispanic wrote on Jul 15, 2008 7:46 AM:
TO: LET'S BE REAL- JUNE 23RD,2008: I don't know if you remeber the big meth bust we had here a few years ago. All of the suspects arrested that day were caucasin. Think about it and be sure to do your homework! TO: EASTSIDE-JUNE 19th,2008: Are you some kind of racist? Did the kids pick on in school? Did your parents raise you to be a bigot? You sound like you NEED SOME SERIOUS HELP?
Joy wrote on Jul 15, 2008 12:29 AM:
since i have moved back to this area in the past few years, it has increasingly grown more severe around drugs, especially meth. I, myself still have never seen the stuff or any other drug really except marijuana. I personally think that as a citizen I should be informed as to what to look for...I mean i've seen the manic people that are obviously drugged out but since I don't do these drugs or aren't around them I would like to know how I can watch and report!
Pam in AK wrote on Jul 14, 2008 4:46 PM:
To Dan et al,
I moved away from Coos Bay in 1980, moved back in 1985 and left (this time for good) in 2005. I was born there, but I do not hold the same closed-mindedness, narrow sightedness that undermines anything good that tries to come to CB/NB. May I suggest Alaska? We have such a shortage of employees that you can get a job inside 1 week! Engineers and nurses especially. My daughter is in IA and she and I compare weather all the time. Winters are slightly cooler and our summers are wonderful with 24-hour sunshine in June and July....keep AK in mind!
I moved away from Coos Bay in 1980, moved back in 1985 and left (this time for good) in 2005. I was born there, but I do not hold the same closed-mindedness, narrow sightedness that undermines anything good that tries to come to CB/NB. May I suggest Alaska? We have such a shortage of employees that you can get a job inside 1 week! Engineers and nurses especially. My daughter is in IA and she and I compare weather all the time. Winters are slightly cooler and our summers are wonderful with 24-hour sunshine in June and July....keep AK in mind!
Earl wrote on Jul 13, 2008 10:54 PM:
Maybe if our whole town got in on it we could boost our economy by a conglomerate drug ring. just think of how successful we could be. not to mention also destroying all the tiny towns around us it would be brilliant. Lets hear what ya think Coos Bay. Are you ready for real change??
Neighborhood watch wrote on Jul 7, 2008 6:50 AM:
We eliminated a lot of crime and druggies on our block by forming a neighborhood watch. Know your neighbors, watch for frequenting druggies and step outside when they drive by. Believe me, they do not want to be noticed. The best advice is to write down License Plate numbers on vehicles that "frequent" drug houses.
Citizen wrote on Jul 6, 2008 11:27 PM:
It's funny how many people are complaining that this took so long. Maybe we should investigate all those who think this took too long. How would they know it did? Sometimes when you go hunting it's not always a good idea to shoot the first thing you see. The first month after I moved here I saw more random drug use out in the open then I ever did in much, much larger cities. Perhaps if people started turning folks in we'd clean this up faster then we do when we leave it up to an agency.
me too wrote on Jul 6, 2008 5:03 AM:
Dan I live in Iowa now and yes the winters suck. I also am a nurse and have researched jobs in Coos Bay and other coastal towns it is easy to find work with this career. Yes there are a lot of meth users but wake up everyone they were there when I was growing up as well I think maybe some people were blind to them?
dan wrote on Jul 3, 2008 12:30 PM:
My family has a very good midwestern work ethic. I think thats why the standard of living in Wis is very good. Its too bad that there are not more living wage jobs in the area, maybe thats part of the reason people do the drugs? There are plenty of drugs etc here in the upper midwest but plenty more hard working people. I am very attracted to the isolation the south coast offers and that is why Im moving back plus the weather is not as severe as it is here. Had all time record snowfall this past winter and now rainfall of historical proportion. Its been crazy and exciting here! I visitied Eugene last summer and saw a girl just swirling around talking to herself for nearly an hour. We were at an outdoor cafe. She looked under age but clearly was on something. Was entertaining to say the least but also very very sad.
Employer wrote on Jul 3, 2008 8:20 AM:
DEAR ADVICE TO DAN:
THE YOUNG GUYS DON'T WANT TO WORK BECAUSE THEY ARE DEAD BEAT DADS OR FLUNK DRUG TESTS...
We need more hard working people here and the jobs to support them.
THE YOUNG GUYS DON'T WANT TO WORK BECAUSE THEY ARE DEAD BEAT DADS OR FLUNK DRUG TESTS...
We need more hard working people here and the jobs to support them.
michelle wrote on Jul 2, 2008 2:36 AM:
Wow! sounds like a lot going on in coos county I also grew up in coosbay/charelston yeah that's right I am a true charelstonian : ) I miss it a lot I had a lot of geat times as a teenager but I did have to move away to go to college. I have moved back to care for a parent in the powers area /////even with a college degree I still found it very hard to find a living wage job and moved to eugene and later central oregon for work/////I make more money than I ever hoped too but not a day goes by that I don't day dream of the ocean and the fun///I come back often enough to see the same struggles that have always been there and then im gone////if a person is independantly wealthy it would be great but no decent paying jobs yet
To- An Insider wrote on Jul 1, 2008 10:27 PM:
Rights-What are rights, Who gave you your rights. God, oh yea, then why are their amendments. How many rights to the people of darfur have. Rights, they can be taken away from you- like my right to drive a SUV because the Dems want to control us. They wont let us drill becuase our environment or alternative fuel, ha, what alternative fuel.
To Dan wrote on Jul 1, 2008 5:53 PM:
I was the one who gave you the advice to not move back here, but honestly it would be nice to have people move to this area who seem as caring and kind as you. If we had enough people like you here maybe we could turn this community around. I do agree it's beautiful here (although I do still regret moving back here myself). God Bless and good luck to you.
justsoyouknow wrote on Jul 1, 2008 1:05 PM:
When they effectively shut down the "mom & pop" meth labs, the well established Mexican drug trade stepped right in. Heroin is also showing up more. If you see strange goings on among local low lifes, report them.
Dan wrote on Jul 1, 2008 10:22 AM:
Whats up with all the meth? Coos Bay sits in such an incredibly beautiful area. It is sad to hear of the unemployment, drug use and crime problems in the area. I do plan to move back though when my kids are done with school here in Wis. I wont need to work but will live on a fixed sufficient income. Maybe the wife and I can make a difference if we move back to Coos Bay. She is a nurse, im an engineer. Sounds like the area could use some hardworking Christian new/old comers.......... thanks again for the feedback. I actually am undecided at this point but know that somewhere on the south coast will be my home again! Too much snow here in wisconsin but it tends to keep the rifraf out.....
Advice To Dan wrote on Jul 1, 2008 1:35 AM:
I moved away then moved back...worst mistake ever. This area is a cesspool of angry people. Some, because they're sick of the meth freaks (of which there are MANY), others because they ARE the meth freaks, others because this is a repressed and depressed community, and some are angry because they're the few that work while the rest collect welfare. (BTW: don't flip out people! Nothing wrong with actually needing welfare, but the majority are just girls with too many babies and not enough daddies, and young guys that don't want to work).
So, if you want somewhere to retire, don't need politeness from other residents or courteous employees in businesses, don't need any working income, and don't mind if your home/car gets broken into...well then this is the place for you! Welcome!
So, if you want somewhere to retire, don't need politeness from other residents or courteous employees in businesses, don't need any working income, and don't mind if your home/car gets broken into...well then this is the place for you! Welcome!
dan wrote on Jun 30, 2008 6:57 PM:
me too, what state are you in? Wis. is ok, too cold at times but the people and schools are exceptional.
RMC wrote on Jun 28, 2008 9:54 AM:
Remember when the law makers tried to convince the taxpayers that making it harder to buy over the counter cold medicines would be the answer to controlling the manufacture of meth? What it did is make it harder to obtain cold and allergy medication that were more effective for cold and allergies. 80% of the meth that is circulating throughout the country comes from south of the border in super labs. Our government created the market for this to happen. It also created job security for the same government employees. It is all a conspiracy to dupe Americans out of their hard earned dollars when in fact the government doesn't really want these problems to go away. If the drug problems were solved, there wouldn't be any need for agencies like SCINT. We are the tit that never dries up for these guys. I for one, would be curious as to how much the total bill to do this five year investigation cost versus the amount of meth actually impounded. It all seems like a waste when one knows that there will be another person to take his place within weeks.
me too wrote on Jun 28, 2008 5:03 AM:
Dan, I too grew up in coos bay and have been away along time living in the midwest
and went back the last few years to visit family didn't notice that it has really changed that much and I can't wait cause in a few years I am moving back, I love it there and miss it and no matter what anyone else says can't wait to get back so provided you all experienced in a field where jobs are available it should be easy.
and went back the last few years to visit family didn't notice that it has really changed that much and I can't wait cause in a few years I am moving back, I love it there and miss it and no matter what anyone else says can't wait to get back so provided you all experienced in a field where jobs are available it should be easy.
an insider wrote on Jun 25, 2008 5:50 PM:
To Kathleen,
How do you know that the investigation didn't last five years? Were you part of the investigation team? Are you a member of SCINT? I'm guessing that you aren't. Because of the wonderful rights our constitution guarantees, it takes an incredible amount of time to build enough evidence to ensure a conviction.
If so many people posting here are concerned with how long these types of investigations are taking, why don't you do something to help....donate money and time or get involved in your community. Support your local law enforcement instead of bashing them.
How do you know that the investigation didn't last five years? Were you part of the investigation team? Are you a member of SCINT? I'm guessing that you aren't. Because of the wonderful rights our constitution guarantees, it takes an incredible amount of time to build enough evidence to ensure a conviction.
If so many people posting here are concerned with how long these types of investigations are taking, why don't you do something to help....donate money and time or get involved in your community. Support your local law enforcement instead of bashing them.
Lets be real wrote on Jun 25, 2008 10:57 AM:
To Bob-
I am not un-educated just because some people dont have time to spell out every last word. But anyways I am not blaming it all on them I am just stating a fact someone asked was he an illegal and the answer to that is YES. Sorry for you that you dont like that fact but its true. If you dont believe me look into it yourself!!!!!!! I am not trying to put it all on them I am saying its sad but its the truth that most of the chemicals and everything else do come from across the border look on the internet. Do some research I have!!!!!!
I am not un-educated just because some people dont have time to spell out every last word. But anyways I am not blaming it all on them I am just stating a fact someone asked was he an illegal and the answer to that is YES. Sorry for you that you dont like that fact but its true. If you dont believe me look into it yourself!!!!!!! I am not trying to put it all on them I am saying its sad but its the truth that most of the chemicals and everything else do come from across the border look on the internet. Do some research I have!!!!!!
CB wrote on Jun 25, 2008 10:07 AM:
Of course there is good and bad in all nationalities, BUT for such a small population "so far" of Hispanics around here, there is an abnormal amount of them getting arrested for drugs, murder, attacks, etc, here. Just read the paper every night and there is almost always a Hispanic name in trouble of some kind.
Dan wrote on Jun 24, 2008 5:58 PM:
thanks a lot for the open advice, I appreciate that. I moved to Wisconsin many years ago and have built a good life here. I had always planned on moving back to Coos Bay at some point though...... hmmmmm?
Bay Area Resident wrote on Jun 24, 2008 2:47 PM:
Dan--
I don't think I would move back unless the inspiration for the move is to be near family. Relationships are a top priority. Otherwise we have few jobs, few shopping choices, lots of wind and definitely our share of inconsiderate people.
I don't think I would move back unless the inspiration for the move is to be near family. Relationships are a top priority. Otherwise we have few jobs, few shopping choices, lots of wind and definitely our share of inconsiderate people.
Steve wrote on Jun 24, 2008 2:45 PM:
To answer you DAN, NO! I have been gone for almost 3 years, I dont care what happens ill never move back to COOS county. An out of control retirment village with a corrupt police force across the county and citizens not supporting the good police officers. You couldnt pay me enough.And for the spelling Natzies I know.
Dan wrote on Jun 24, 2008 10:32 AM:
Ok, let me ask the question again but a different format. Would any of you move back to Coos Bay after a long absence? This news paper does not paint a pretty picture of why I should other than the fact that its my home town and its scenic. The meth and crime problem etc seem out of control if all I have to rely is the news. please enlighten me.
Kathleen wrote on Jun 24, 2008 9:28 AM:
Get real people a five year investigation.I dont hardly think so They probably got the tip a week ago.With all the complaning about the lack of funding where would the get the $ to run a stake out for that amount of time. As far a the Half pound of meth,That is just a fraction of the amounts that is being shipped into our town,It takes alot of money to run a drug dealing operation if they want to catch the big fish then maybe they might find them in the big fancy house in the big fancy neighborhood Do you really think that the Rich guys behind the trafficing want the druggies coming to their homes to buy.
Kathleen wrote on Jun 24, 2008 8:52 AM:
Get real people,A five year investigation. I dont hardly think so. They probably got the tip a week ago.And if you think a half pound of meth is gob, you are sadly mistaken. They The Drug dealers are shipping that stuff up here by the ton not pounds.What is it that you belive that every illegal that crosses the border has a backpack of drugs. Dont be stupid!Sure the Mexican cartel has something to do with it but it aint the illegal immigrants that have that kind of dinero.
sal wrote on Jun 24, 2008 1:38 AM:
Everybody open your eyes!! As a Mexican American who is currently in the military and a graduate this is not just a Coos Bay problem, it is a national crisis. Drugs have been in our world a long time. There are just as many white as hispanics, asian, or whatever that are involed in this drug war. We "Mexicans" have been here just as long as the native Americans. I wish everybody would stop playing the race card and just be happy this drug selling moron wether he is in a wheelchair or not is gone. It took five years to bust him, most of you don't know it takes time to get OTHER'S involved and build more cases to get them all. We as a community need to come together drop the race thing and get these drug pushers out of here.
bull wrote on Jun 23, 2008 9:33 PM:
So can anyone clear up for me where the whole "wheel chair" part comes in? I don't see anything about that in the story.
wow wrote on Jun 23, 2008 5:29 PM:
to "Bob" and "Lets be real"
You guys are idiots. Is it ironic that racists don't know grammar(lack of education)? Don't assume that just because someone has a Hispanic sounding name that they are automatically an "illegal." You are insulting the majority of Latinos who are hard working, tax paying, born and raised AMERICANS who have never committed a crime.
If it weren't for the failed "war on drugs" the people behind meth labs would be American, like it always had been until recently. You can blame your beloved republican anti-drug warriors and fellow white tweekers for drawing in criminals from south of the border since they created the market for foreign methamphetamine ingredients.
You guys are idiots. Is it ironic that racists don't know grammar(lack of education)? Don't assume that just because someone has a Hispanic sounding name that they are automatically an "illegal." You are insulting the majority of Latinos who are hard working, tax paying, born and raised AMERICANS who have never committed a crime.
If it weren't for the failed "war on drugs" the people behind meth labs would be American, like it always had been until recently. You can blame your beloved republican anti-drug warriors and fellow white tweekers for drawing in criminals from south of the border since they created the market for foreign methamphetamine ingredients.
Wilshire Blvd wrote on Jun 23, 2008 4:30 PM:
"Linda wrote on Jun 20, 2008 11:33 AM:
I don't live in Empire, but I know it's not just there"
Nope, we're organizing a "appreciate your neighborhood/deportation party" and you're invited :)
I don't live in Empire, but I know it's not just there"
Nope, we're organizing a "appreciate your neighborhood/deportation party" and you're invited :)
Lets be real wrote on Jun 23, 2008 3:50 PM:
Yes his imagration status would give another one to an illegal immagrant that now gets to sit in our prisons while the tax payers pay for him to sit there. So in answer to Juan yes a lot of our drug problem in our town is coming from ILLEGAL immigrants. Thats were we get the chemicals to make it from. It also comes from Mexico bacause it is all outlawed here in the US now. So sorry but a lot of the blame needs to be put on illegal imigrants who bring drugs into our country every day. And for some thats there whole life is how to hustle drugs into the United States and thats not right!!!!!
justsoyouknow wrote on Jun 23, 2008 12:55 PM:
There was a couple of HUGE busts in the valley a few months ago (Meth and cocaine) if this goes on kiss your little towns goodbye, the Mexican Mafia is behind this drug trade, and your town is part of it. DO SOMETHING- call the police and ask what you can do. Report suspect behavior, to bad they (hispanics) are doing this, most of them are great hard working law abiding people, who want nothing but a good life for their kids.
Demonspawn wrote on Jun 21, 2008 8:24 AM:
1 man in a wheel chair. 5 years. 24 officers.
Do you honestly believe that this will end? Ha! You people make me sick with your justification on how the government finally came in to stop him.
Remember this you conservative non educated idiots. The Government hates competition.
Do you honestly believe that this will end? Ha! You people make me sick with your justification on how the government finally came in to stop him.
Remember this you conservative non educated idiots. The Government hates competition.
reedsgirl wrote on Jun 20, 2008 10:52 PM:
you know every thing that happens you all knock the police, or at least a majority of you do, are you officers ?? if you think you can do much better get out there and do it! im not an officer but every thing that they do for our community should be appritiated, they put there lives on the line daily for us citizens... thank you officers.......
whatever wrote on Jun 20, 2008 9:39 PM:
I agree 5 years is excessive. The police should be able to kick in doors on anonymous information and take people to jail when violations are found. Instant justice, that way no more whiners would complain about it taking so long to build a case, given that law enforcement has their hands tied behind their back at the moment, and criminals have more rights than anyone else.
Funny thing is, if police were bootin doors, the same whiners here talking about how 5 years is excessive, would be the same ones screaming 'what about our rights!'
Funny thing is, if police were bootin doors, the same whiners here talking about how 5 years is excessive, would be the same ones screaming 'what about our rights!'
resident of coosbay wrote on Jun 20, 2008 5:57 PM:
I just hate that it had to be a hispanic man, "cause it just gives the loyal citizens that work hard and happen to be hispanic a bad name...too bad
Juan wrote on Jun 20, 2008 1:14 PM:
Bob:
What's your immigration status? Would the finding that he's not a legal resident of this country reinforce your racist tendencies? This area's drug problem is not an immigration issue. Quit scapegoating.
What's your immigration status? Would the finding that he's not a legal resident of this country reinforce your racist tendencies? This area's drug problem is not an immigration issue. Quit scapegoating.
Linda wrote on Jun 20, 2008 11:33 AM:
To Eastside, how much you want to bet Eastside is chalked full too!!!!!! Get with the real world dude. Probably people you work with are screwed up on the crap too. I don't live in Empire, but I know it's not just there.
lillyview wrote on Jun 20, 2008 9:47 AM:
Dan-IMO move to coquille not coos bay. less crime there.
very interesting this guy gets 15 yrs for meth and the guy who killed a man only gets 10 yrs.
very interesting this guy gets 15 yrs for meth and the guy who killed a man only gets 10 yrs.
John wrote on Jun 20, 2008 9:01 AM:
GOOD JOB, But I agree 5 years...my god,
You'd think their would be atleast another 30 names listed in the arrest,
I too would like to know how Eugene was involved???
You'd think their would be atleast another 30 names listed in the arrest,
I too would like to know how Eugene was involved???
Dan wrote on Jun 20, 2008 7:10 AM:
I moved away from Coos Bay about 20 years ago and want to return to live out my years in the area. Any recommendations?
Kris wrote on Jun 20, 2008 4:15 AM:
Thank You, Thank You, SCINT!!
Other arrests (the little fish)connected with this LOSER have probably happened over the past 5 years...and GREAT JOB to finally snag one of the "big fish" aka supplier. Most likely, his intra-state and inter-state connections have been identified as well!!!! It is a slow, methodical and (often) thankless job SCINT does.
There ARE many of us in this community that are extremely thankful for the hard work and dedication that have happened over the past 5+ years to make this arrest!!
I agree with Cora, this is good news. Keep up the good work!! Hopefully more people will appreciate your efforts.
Other arrests (the little fish)connected with this LOSER have probably happened over the past 5 years...and GREAT JOB to finally snag one of the "big fish" aka supplier. Most likely, his intra-state and inter-state connections have been identified as well!!!! It is a slow, methodical and (often) thankless job SCINT does.
There ARE many of us in this community that are extremely thankful for the hard work and dedication that have happened over the past 5+ years to make this arrest!!
I agree with Cora, this is good news. Keep up the good work!! Hopefully more people will appreciate your efforts.
ononomous wrote on Jun 19, 2008 9:40 PM:
That is exactly what I am thinking....5 YEARS! And as each day ticked by, more people were introduced to his Crystal Crud?
How many children became addicted, and how many families fell apart because of this time span of investigation?
How many children became addicted, and how many families fell apart because of this time span of investigation?
reader wrote on Jun 19, 2008 8:33 PM:
yeah, like we need that in the vicinity of a school, it should not have even taken 1 year, they should have been on that as soon as it was reported, especially for the kids sake... get real coos county...
val wrote on Jun 19, 2008 8:28 PM:
WOW, 24 officers to bring down a 54 year old man in a WHEELCHAIR...
bob wrote on Jun 19, 2008 8:21 PM:
what's the immigration status of the suspect?
Eastside wrote on Jun 19, 2008 7:52 PM:
"another one bites the dust!"
Those people are like cockroaches; for everyone that gets nailed, two more pop up.
How much ya wanna bet Empire is chock full of them?
Those people are like cockroaches; for everyone that gets nailed, two more pop up.
How much ya wanna bet Empire is chock full of them?
cass wrote on Jun 19, 2008 5:42 PM:
MIKE________ it may taken 5 years, but its not all his fault that lives were destroyed. it was their decision to do the drugs. I am not saying what happened in that home was good, but still like i said. He didnt make them do it, they choose to do them! Think about it!
What ever wrote on Jun 19, 2008 4:45 PM:
Lets not be rude we have all either knowen someone or had it happen to us. Those who judge have some KARMA coming back to them.....
Lets be real wrote on Jun 19, 2008 4:42 PM:
The reason other agencies were there is because it was a Federal matter. So that makes it an even bigger deal. And did you read where he is being logged at in Lane County so that would be why Eugene SCINT was here. Lets see how you would handle something like that, if you jump into things you never get the result you want especially in a situation like this. It takes a long time to build a good enough case against someone to just go in and get a search warrent... So if they would have went in 4 years ago most likely he would have been out in a couple of days and that would have been it. But since they had patience and intellegence unlike a lot of people in this town this man is going to go away for a quite awhile. So instead of bashing SCINT for them doing there job I think we should congratulate them on a job well done!!! We need to stand behing our local law enforcement agencies instead of thinking its our business to put our opinion in. Thats what there payed to do!!!!!!
Cora wrote on Jun 19, 2008 2:04 PM:
This is good news, another one bites the dust!
mike wrote on Jun 19, 2008 12:01 PM:
It took 5 YEARS??? I wonder how many lives were destroyed in that time, Great work, if I report something NOW then by the year 2013 it might be taken care of, good to know! WHY was the Eugene Drug Enforcement in on it??? OH they probably spearheaded the investigation, a feather in SCINT'S cap? NO WAY keep riding coat tails their Floyd!!!
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