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Citizen wrote on Jul 10, 2008 11:00 AM:
I'll bet the kid wishes he was pointing the gun in a different direction. I think this was an accident, but I don't know what really went on. Maybe don't point a gun at a person when you are unloading it. Maybe lock your daughters and sons up. Maybe parents should be more involved. Maybe we all have done things we wish we could undo. Maybe I should just shut up.
LC wrote on Jul 8, 2008 3:18 PM:
Why did he go into her parents room and get the gun to begin with? Our DA is an idiot!
MOTHER wrote on Jul 4, 2008 9:32 PM:
Just because Frasier said the gun was pointed at her does not mean that Zan knew it was pointed at her, maybe she walked in front of him while he was looking down unloading it when it went off. And no, he is not mentally ill, he was unloading it and it went off. Has anyone tested the gun to make sure it works properly? And the gun should not have been out because their daughter was not 18.
wow wrote on Jul 4, 2008 12:27 AM:
Her parents are to blame??!! Oh sorry, I guess they should have been better prepared for their daughter's idiot boyfriend to trespass into their house, not to mention THEIR ROOM, and steal their gun to shoot their daughter. Yeah, it's their fault alright. That kid got off easy. You can steal your neighbor's lawn gnome and be sentenced more than 60 days in jail. But apparently in Coos County you can shoot someone, regardless if it is an accident or not...HE STILL SHOT HER, and only be in jail for 2 months. That is just wrong.
To RJ wrote on Jul 3, 2008 5:19 PM:
I agree, his parents (and ALL parents) should teach kids about gun safety. This could have been avoided. As a teenager I was constantly amazed how many other kids didn't know about guns. I also agree that any home where there is a child, every gun should be locked away. But this was not a child playing with a gun. He was 18, an adult! So, not really the gun owners fault in this case.
To A True Friend wrote on Jul 3, 2008 5:12 PM:
Give me a break! I don't know anyone involved, I do know that when I was a small child I knew better than to EVER point a gun at someone (loaded or not) or to play with a gun. We're talking about an 18 yr old, legally an adult. Of course he should be held responsible! As for the comment that her parents are responsible...that's insane. He's an adult, made the decision to PLAY with a weapon, and has to be held accountable. Like I said, I don't know him so there could be circumstances, such as being mentally ill or handicapped (I'm not being sarcastic, I truly don't know if he possibly is). But if not, he's a irresponsible jacka** that needs to learn to respect guns and pay the consequences of his foolish actions.
Middle is Adam wrote on Jul 2, 2008 12:17 AM:
A ninety year old man crapped himself yesterday. Is it anybody's fault? Nope, just another ACCIDENT! Don't be too hard on accidents you might be one.
Please keep in mind folks, media sells DRAMA......enjoy!
Please keep in mind folks, media sells DRAMA......enjoy!
Susan wrote on Jun 30, 2008 10:53 PM:
To the familys of both teens, I pray for each one of you a blessing of peace. May you each heal inside and out, physically,emotionally and spiritually. May only good words reach your ears and others fall silent before you. May nothing stand in the way of your moving forward and may you be blessed. 2 lives were deeply affected, fortunately both have hopeful futures ahead of them, let true gratitude for that be your focus.
Jen wrote on Jun 30, 2008 9:58 AM:
All of you who have judged or spewed insults with no basis, against Zan, should seriously be ashamed. He IS a good kid, He made a huge mistake, it could of been deadly..He is beating himself up more than any of you are now. What more did you want from him, go to prison for life, or 20 years. It WAS an accident. Ignorance is stupidity. And most of you are!! KNow the facts before you judge!!
Jen wrote on Jun 30, 2008 9:55 AM:
All of you who have posted ugly or demeaning or judmental comments about Zan, needs a serious reality check..Do you honestly believe everything you read, even if it's in The World Newspaper.
You know absolutly nothing about Zan. How can you judge him and refer to him as bad or a criminal. HE IS a good kid!!! You all should be ashamed of yourselves for saying things about a boy who is just barely 18. This was a huge accident, which he is paying dearly for. To say that is no justice is clearly mistaken. What more did you all want from him, to be put away for life or 10 or so years. He's a young kid that has never been in trouble ever. I'm sure he is beating himself more than all of you haters are. Think if this was your son or daughter, Would you want strangers talking nonsense about your child.
Before you judge KNOW the facts. Ignorance is stupidity.
Think about what you say..Because you could be in the same situation, God forbid.
You know absolutly nothing about Zan. How can you judge him and refer to him as bad or a criminal. HE IS a good kid!!! You all should be ashamed of yourselves for saying things about a boy who is just barely 18. This was a huge accident, which he is paying dearly for. To say that is no justice is clearly mistaken. What more did you all want from him, to be put away for life or 10 or so years. He's a young kid that has never been in trouble ever. I'm sure he is beating himself more than all of you haters are. Think if this was your son or daughter, Would you want strangers talking nonsense about your child.
Before you judge KNOW the facts. Ignorance is stupidity.
Think about what you say..Because you could be in the same situation, God forbid.
rj wrote on Jun 28, 2008 10:02 AM:
I am not here to judge someone or misinterpret what has been said or written. The point that should be picked up here is that as parents we have the responsibility to teach our children what is right or wrong. Parents don't leave guns out of locked safes, and make sure if a child is going to use a gun they have had proper training, which includes knowing when and where to use a gun.
I have been around firearms my whole life. My dad taught me very young that a gun is not a toy. It was only to be used when I was with him or for hunting purposes.
So please make sure your guns are where no child can get to them unless they have your permission and are supervised.
I have been around firearms my whole life. My dad taught me very young that a gun is not a toy. It was only to be used when I was with him or for hunting purposes.
So please make sure your guns are where no child can get to them unless they have your permission and are supervised.
fly on the wall wrote on Jun 28, 2008 8:24 AM:
"A TRUE FRIEND"
you have done a good job of showing the mentality of your age group, by your indigent choice of words. Thank you for showing us how your age group has a lack of respect for themselves and others, and your ability to find someone or something else to blame for your actions. I find it odd that you think its o.k. to walk into a parents bed room when they are not home and remove a gun,and youtry and blame them for it. I guess you think its o.k. to steal from your neighbor, when he leaves his door unlocked. The problem is lack of respect and boundries. If you want to find fault look to the one who crossed the line.
you have done a good job of showing the mentality of your age group, by your indigent choice of words. Thank you for showing us how your age group has a lack of respect for themselves and others, and your ability to find someone or something else to blame for your actions. I find it odd that you think its o.k. to walk into a parents bed room when they are not home and remove a gun,and youtry and blame them for it. I guess you think its o.k. to steal from your neighbor, when he leaves his door unlocked. The problem is lack of respect and boundries. If you want to find fault look to the one who crossed the line.
A True Friend wrote on Jun 26, 2008 4:49 PM:
Oh and by the way, Zan is a great kid, and her parents should be held accountable, do u jus lay guns around your house? Look at what Brandon said. Oh think about this too he had those bullets in his backpack from when he went out shooting with his cousin, so jus so u know there is more insight then u will ever get your hands on. Surely enough you will learn when to speak, Thanks for the comment though.
A True Friend wrote on Jun 26, 2008 4:46 PM:
Hey Melissa, Do u know anything about this story? Do u go by what the paper says? You obviously do, u dont know the real story that happened that day, so bug off. This town is full of crude remarks about zan, and yeah you are criminals i agree because u know what people who dont know the story and base sh**ty opinions upon something they dont know $#!* about should not say anything at all. It would be like me judging your family through things i hear, dont u understand the media, dont u understand this is how the world sells their articles through dramatic hype, you give me a break and learn to understand stretched truth about zan "playing with guns" BS on that remark you made. I deal with media everday i know this.
Melissa wrote on Jun 26, 2008 8:39 AM:
CONCERNED MOTHER,
I want to add that is is a sad thing when you tell this boy that we are CRIMINALS for writing our opinion but he a wonderful boy after his so called accident.Explain this to me please,and why would you hold her parents responsible for the gun,how old is this boy doesnt he no better than to go into someones house and in their bedroom and play with their gun or guns give me a break.SO WHAT WOULD MAKE HIM A BAD BOY?
I want to add that is is a sad thing when you tell this boy that we are CRIMINALS for writing our opinion but he a wonderful boy after his so called accident.Explain this to me please,and why would you hold her parents responsible for the gun,how old is this boy doesnt he no better than to go into someones house and in their bedroom and play with their gun or guns give me a break.SO WHAT WOULD MAKE HIM A BAD BOY?
a concerned mother wrote on Jun 23, 2008 9:39 PM:
Zan, I know you asked my son to send these articles to you so you can read them. If they let you please don't let it get to you. The true criminals are those that add to the story or act like they know what happened that day and then make judgements. I could easily judge the Eberlein's for keeping a gun in the house with easy access and knowledge to others that it exists. That's careless in my opinion, but I'm not suppose to say that because they're the "victims". You and your family are doing all the suffering right now and people with their assumptions are adding to your pain. I really hope you don't get to read any of this, but if you do...remember you're a wonderful person and so many people care about you and your family. Ignore the negative articles, they're meaningless.
Brandon wrote on Jun 23, 2008 8:53 PM:
Just To Follow up on what I said, How did Zan even know it was a 22? How did he know what shells to bring over? How did he know where the gun actually was? Its not only him that should be accountable but the Parents as well for even keeping a gun in the house where someone can get to it. Obviously Chloes parents showed him the type of gun they had and where they keep it, and/or chloe wanted him to bring the gun out into the room. So who showed him and how did he know where to get it? The Eberlein family who else?
Brandon wrote on Jun 23, 2008 1:40 PM:
Alright Heres the deal, I'm Friends with Chloe and Zan. Zan Made a Poor Choice. But look at it our jails are already overcrowded, He has diabetes in which they are doing a terrible job attending too, and i know the county wants money so with his diabetes its only sucking money out. I know this from letters he has sent me. This article is too much drama and over the top, maybe zan did have bullets in the backback, but maybe to show chloe how to shoot the gun? Stuff like that it hit her when he unloaded the gun, it was an accident and his life is terrible now, i dont think people or even chloes parents understand. This article makes it sound like he did it on purpose, but so you know he loves this girl more than he loves anything. You think this is what he wants? Not at all, he wants this nightmare to end and from what i am aware never touch a gun again. Chloe didnt even want this, and shes the one that got shot...think about it...
So Sad wrote on Jun 23, 2008 8:07 AM:
It is so sad to see how over dramatized Coos County is. People need to turn off their TV or at lease be more selective in what you watch. Leave the drama to Soap Operas and get on with real life. Does nobody in this county beleive an accident can occur? The young man should be held accountable for the medical bills but fining him and putting him in an overcrowed jail makes no sense since the girl did not want to prosecute.
What scares me is that many of the people who are posting nonsense could be sitting on a jury some day. Their need for drama, inablity to be objective or to listen to reason, and their willingness to bear false witness against their neighbor is very disturbing to me.
What scares me is that many of the people who are posting nonsense could be sitting on a jury some day. Their need for drama, inablity to be objective or to listen to reason, and their willingness to bear false witness against their neighbor is very disturbing to me.
concerened wrote on Jun 23, 2008 12:46 AM:
what the heck is wrong with our system it is really messed up in coos county
to friend wrote on Jun 21, 2008 9:14 AM:
O and by the way its freaking coos bay ask a lot of people and kids they have shells with them a lot its not very uncommon as it is common.
I disagree. Are you kidding me? I went to school K-12 locally and now my children do. And NO it's not common for kids to walk around with shells!!!!!!!
Please.
I disagree. Are you kidding me? I went to school K-12 locally and now my children do. And NO it's not common for kids to walk around with shells!!!!!!!
Please.
Terrence wrote on Jun 17, 2008 10:45 PM:
Ron,
I am in Iraq and we had an accidental discharge two days ago in the chow hall by a well trained Air Force Security Officer. Nobody was injured but they certainly could have been. The airmen will lose a stripe. Accidents do happen. Zan is guilty of improper muzzle awareness and poor firearm safety. That's it... No malicous intent. Again, he's a good kid and does not deserve to be anywhere near a prison.
I am in Iraq and we had an accidental discharge two days ago in the chow hall by a well trained Air Force Security Officer. Nobody was injured but they certainly could have been. The airmen will lose a stripe. Accidents do happen. Zan is guilty of improper muzzle awareness and poor firearm safety. That's it... No malicous intent. Again, he's a good kid and does not deserve to be anywhere near a prison.
Ron wrote on Jun 16, 2008 7:56 PM:
Friend of both-If neither of us were there, then your opinion is just as worthless as mine. Telling me to shut up won't change the fact of what he did. If they still care for each other like you say, then they are meant for each other. Just hope she's as lucky the next time.
Amazing-When he learned to shoot is not the issue. I teach hunter's safety and many kids learn to shoot at a young age. It doesn't make you a killer or a bad person because you know how to use a gun, or any other weapon for that matter. What matters is the choices you make when you use them. It also does not make his parents bad people for teaching him. He made a bad choice and he should be held accountable.
Terrence-I've never accidentally loaded any of my guns.
Amazing-When he learned to shoot is not the issue. I teach hunter's safety and many kids learn to shoot at a young age. It doesn't make you a killer or a bad person because you know how to use a gun, or any other weapon for that matter. What matters is the choices you make when you use them. It also does not make his parents bad people for teaching him. He made a bad choice and he should be held accountable.
Terrence-I've never accidentally loaded any of my guns.
MOTHER wrote on Jun 16, 2008 3:41 PM:
ALEXANDER RICH
Are you the personal friend of Doug Eberlein that made sure this story was on the front page and the same friend that tipped off MHS when they were printing the true story in the MHS times? Or is his friend of Doug's the editor himself?
Are you the personal friend of Doug Eberlein that made sure this story was on the front page and the same friend that tipped off MHS when they were printing the true story in the MHS times? Or is his friend of Doug's the editor himself?
FRIEND OF BOTH wrote on Jun 16, 2008 3:19 PM:
LINDA
Actually Linda I am an adult and you are right, it is America and we have the freedom of speech, so I do have the freedom to tell people that do not know the facts to shut up!
Actually Linda I am an adult and you are right, it is America and we have the freedom of speech, so I do have the freedom to tell people that do not know the facts to shut up!
A Parent who is thanful wrote on Jun 13, 2008 1:16 PM:
Chloe will thank her parents one day...for all of this. She is a very smart girl and soon she will see her parents are looking out for her and they love her very much. Kids have a hard time seeing what's right and what's wrong somtimes... They are protecting their daughter just as they should as a parent. Thank you Toni and Doug for standing your ground and doing the right thing...loving your child.
Linda wrote on Jun 13, 2008 12:14 PM:
To friend of both,it's America or did you forget, we have a right to our opinion whether you like it or not. You must be a kid, telling us to shut up was the first clue.
FRIEND OF BOTH wrote on Jun 13, 2008 11:25 AM:
JUST CURIOUS
No they have not asked her what she wanted, in fact they have done the opposite and yes they have pushed her away.
No they have not asked her what she wanted, in fact they have done the opposite and yes they have pushed her away.
Just curious... wrote on Jun 13, 2008 9:15 AM:
Did anyone ever stop to ask Chloe what she wanted??? All her parents are doing is pushing her away, and what they will end up with is excactly the opposite of what they want.
Not Typical Coos County wrote on Jun 13, 2008 8:51 AM:
WOW, Do all you people out there have so little to do with your own lives that you have to thrive on other peoples pain and suffering. By reading some of these comments it sounds like some of you like to see people go through terrible things. Typical Coos County...why don't you all just get your own lives and let other people deal with there own? Is it because your own life is just as bad if not WORSE???
Amazing wrote on Jun 12, 2008 2:05 PM:
Hey me:
I get that this is a hunting town and kids learn young...but last time I checked hunter safety courses are out there for teens and a "little" younger, not SIX!!! And, how in the world do you justify calling this an accident if he has a L.O.A.D.E.D gun pointed at someone.....hunting animals is one thing, but not hunting people!
I get that this is a hunting town and kids learn young...but last time I checked hunter safety courses are out there for teens and a "little" younger, not SIX!!! And, how in the world do you justify calling this an accident if he has a L.O.A.D.E.D gun pointed at someone.....hunting animals is one thing, but not hunting people!
me wrote on Jun 12, 2008 8:10 AM:
hey, Amazing i dont know if you know this but we live in a hunting town. thier are alot of parents that teach their kids how to shoot young. that doesnt mean they are going to go shoot someone. It was an accident!!!
Terrence wrote on Jun 11, 2008 5:19 PM:
Folks, it was an accidental shooting. It's horrible, but it happens. Nothing should have been done to Zan. He's an excellent kid and would have never wanted to hurt his girlfriend.
Amazing wrote on Jun 11, 2008 5:18 PM:
Am I the only one who sees the fact the the boys father makes the comment about "how could this happen, he's been shooting a gun since he was six" What the heck is a six year old learning how to shoot a gun for? OMG....what parent in their right mind does that and then acts surprised when something horrible happens. Would you have let him get behind the wheel and drive? Mind boggling...
Amazing wrote on Jun 11, 2008 5:17 PM:
Am I the only what who sees the fact the the boys father makes the comment about "how could this happen, he's been shooting a gun since he was six" What the heck is a six year old learning how to shoot a gun for? OMG....what parent in their right mind does that and then acts surprised when something horrible happens. Would you have let him get behind the wheel and drive? Mind boggling...
OUTSIDE LOOKING IN wrote on Jun 11, 2008 4:14 PM:
Nothing I posted goes against any of your rules,so why have you not been posting them?Is this newspaper totally one sided,your way or no way?Only speaking facts,I'll see if you post this one.
OUTSIDE LOOKING IN wrote on Jun 11, 2008 3:12 PM:
It seems that our DA's office dont or wont prosecute crimes for what they are.Perhaps a recall would wake up the Bar Ass.and other individuals.Who's with me on this?Something needs to change .
MOTHER wrote on Jun 11, 2008 2:55 PM:
To 'Interested Party', you know the facts of what the bullet did but I guess that your hearing is not so well or maybe you need to evesdrop a little better because he has NOT been shooting a gun since he was six. His dad just bought a gun this year and had taken him out shooting a few times. I was sitting right there at the hospital with my son and his dad and that statement you made is a flat out LIE! And the girl is not afraid of him and they were allowed to see each other when this happened and she is devastated that they cannot see each other. As far as everyone else (Melissa) it is NONE of your business what happened that day. The two people that know what happened are still in love with each other. It was an accident, not matter how it happened. Think on that! Hopefully you will all be blessed not to have a tragic accident involve you or someone close to you because it is living hell for all!
Concerned Person wrote on Jun 11, 2008 2:50 PM:
Dear MHS Parent
You are so wrong with your comment. Chloe's parents know what really happened that day. They are the ones who sat through emergency surgery wondering if their daugher was going to make it. They are the ones to sat at her bedside while she was intensive care for two days then in the hospital for another 5 days. They are the ones who have taken care of her both physically an mentally since the shooting. Get over yourself!!
You are so wrong with your comment. Chloe's parents know what really happened that day. They are the ones who sat through emergency surgery wondering if their daugher was going to make it. They are the ones to sat at her bedside while she was intensive care for two days then in the hospital for another 5 days. They are the ones who have taken care of her both physically an mentally since the shooting. Get over yourself!!
food for thought wrote on Jun 11, 2008 2:30 PM:
Perhaps Mr. Frasier is looking for a recall himself.As his actions may be so as to bring back Mr. Burgett,for he could get paid from county taxpayers and collect his PERS at the same time.This does happen more than the average bear knows.
friend wrote on Jun 11, 2008 2:02 PM:
Its Coos Bay its not as uncommon as it is common for people to have shells.
And also there is no facts to this article.
And also there is no facts to this article.
Friend wrote on Jun 11, 2008 2:01 PM:
Ok can you people relize that this is a article with no facts. Its the World news paper just think of a lot of articles and there usually not right. I think that if you knew the whole story and had all the details then you might have a change in thought. O and by the way its freaking coos bay ask a lot of people and kids they have shells with them a lot its not very uncommon as it is common.
Friend wrote on Jun 11, 2008 2:00 PM:
Ok can you people relize that this is a article with no facts and from the point of a plead of gult. Stupid move ya, but I nore do you know what really happened. Its the World news paper just think of a lot of articles and there usually not right. I think that if you knew the whole story and had all the details then you might have a change in thought. O and by the way its freaking coos bay ask a lot of people and kids they have shells with them a lot its not very uncommon as it is common.
Friend wrote on Jun 11, 2008 1:57 PM:
Ok can you people relize that this is a article with no facts and from the point of a plead of gult. I know the kid and he felt so bad your can't describe it. Stupid move ya, but I nore do you know what really happened. Its the World news paper just think of a lot of articles and there usually not right. I think that if you knew the whole story and had all the details then you might have a change in thought. O and by the way its freaking coos bay ask a lot of people and kids they have shells with them a lot its not very uncommon as it is common.
Jimbo wrote on Jun 11, 2008 1:41 PM:
It makes a pretty good story though, living through getting shot, she is like the 50 cent of Marshfield you could say
coos observer wrote on Jun 11, 2008 1:01 PM:
Hope a speedy recovery for her,and as for the $40,000 a quick bankrupty will fix that.WOW,way to go coos county justice system,I'm impressed.Recall anyone?
quikwink wrote on Jun 11, 2008 12:19 PM:
good to know she survived and hope the best on her recovery,and family members,too.Its obvious the DA'S OFFICE dont want to prosecute crimes for what they are,perhaps MR.Frazier wants to be recalled,as so to bring back MR.BURGETT.Then he can collect his PERS while also get wages from tax payers also.double dippen,if u know what i mean.As for a fair sentence its seems appropiate in regards to our former county medical examiners,remember that one?Thats our fine members of the BAR ASS. at their best.
Parent wrote on Jun 11, 2008 10:26 AM:
To "friend of both"
How can you say "he wouldn't hurt anyone, especially this girl??"...are you kidding, that is exactly what he did! He hurt her...period...Nice kid or not, Chloe could be dead right now....accidents happen, we all know that, but pointing a gun at someone, especially a loaded one, in my book does not constitute an accident. That is attempted murder isn't it... This boy obviously has issues. How the heck did he know where the gun in the parents' house was anyway?
How can you say "he wouldn't hurt anyone, especially this girl??"...are you kidding, that is exactly what he did! He hurt her...period...Nice kid or not, Chloe could be dead right now....accidents happen, we all know that, but pointing a gun at someone, especially a loaded one, in my book does not constitute an accident. That is attempted murder isn't it... This boy obviously has issues. How the heck did he know where the gun in the parents' house was anyway?
Interested party wrote on Jun 11, 2008 9:12 AM:
The bullet hitting her chest wasn't that serious? It grazed her heart and lung. Passed through her diaphram and liver and is lodged near a rib. Sounds rather serious to me. It may have been an accident but the first thing the young mans father said to Zan when he saw him at the hospital was " how could this have happened you have been shooting guns since you were six" The fact he just happened to have 22 shells in his backpack seems like quite a coincidence to me.
Mike wrote on Jun 11, 2008 8:50 AM:
Well this is another Coos County justice Joke gone wrong! If this kid had been of another race they would have thrown him in jail and tossed the key away!
Samuel wrote on Jun 11, 2008 8:41 AM:
Being a former Law Enforcement Officer, I can say that from what I read in this that there are a lot of unanswered questions. just because he plead guilty does not mean he is! It is a tactic that I think most lawyers use so their client could have get a light sentence. I am sure Judge Barron would agree with that because it usually includes the judges opinion when the deal is made. The Parents should have listen to the girl to a point but also it sounds like this girl was not suppose to be with him anyway and he may have been warned to stay away by the parents. Like I said there are things here that are not known, so the full truth may never be know except by a few people closely related to the situation. Yes, lets leave these two young adults alone and let them heal and put it behind them.
MHS Parent wrote on Jun 11, 2008 7:04 AM:
There are only two people who really know what happened that day
No Justice in Coos County wrote on Jun 11, 2008 1:41 AM:
What will his excuse be next time. Say what you want "friend of both" you dont accidentaly walk into a girls room and point a freaking gun at her.
If someone was to point a gun at my son or wife you can bet your life it would be the last thing that person did in this world.
If someone was to point a gun at my son or wife you can bet your life it would be the last thing that person did in this world.
to friend and back wrote on Jun 11, 2008 12:18 AM:
I only partially agree... SHE seems to have been through hell and back, HE unfortunately isn't getting the hell he deserves as a person getting shot in the chest with a flaky story behind it isn't worth the effort apparently.
Just An Observer wrote on Jun 10, 2008 9:33 PM:
If this had been an 80-something person who killed a person like the old lady who ran down old Len Farr in a crosswalk, there would have been no charges. The explanation of an accident would have sufficed.
If a cop breaks someone's neck in the course of subduing them, it goes down as an accident.
Let a teen commit an accident and it's a heavy hit. $40,000? Where is the kid going to make that kind of money? Negligence with guns, vehicles and the use of force results in tragedies but it seems like there is not much for fairness in how these things are handled in Coos County.
If a cop breaks someone's neck in the course of subduing them, it goes down as an accident.
Let a teen commit an accident and it's a heavy hit. $40,000? Where is the kid going to make that kind of money? Negligence with guns, vehicles and the use of force results in tragedies but it seems like there is not much for fairness in how these things are handled in Coos County.
Melissa wrote on Jun 10, 2008 9:22 PM:
FRIEND OF BOTH,
So since you know them so well then you tell us why he took the bullets to her house and then went into her parents room and loaded the gun and went to her room then he accidentally pull the trigger and shot her in the chest, WOW how many more facts do we need.Since you know all the facts how about you tell us the story.
So since you know them so well then you tell us why he took the bullets to her house and then went into her parents room and loaded the gun and went to her room then he accidentally pull the trigger and shot her in the chest, WOW how many more facts do we need.Since you know all the facts how about you tell us the story.
yeah right wrote on Jun 10, 2008 9:03 PM:
Are you kidding me.. Of course the girl didn't want to have charges brought.. victims are always afraid of their abusers, and very often stand up for them and make excuses. He should be put away for a LONG time!!
Myrtlewood wrote on Jun 10, 2008 8:19 PM:
"60 days for shooting someone with a gun in the chest?"
"What a freaking joke!"
"What is wrong with our court system anyway ?"
Be thankful he's not an illegal alien or he'd have gotten 30 days and a bus ticket back home.
"What a freaking joke!"
"What is wrong with our court system anyway ?"
Be thankful he's not an illegal alien or he'd have gotten 30 days and a bus ticket back home.
Ron wrote on Jun 10, 2008 8:15 PM:
"FRIEND OF BOTH" were you there? Was he going hunting/target shooting in her house?
Guns don't accidentally pick themselves up, load themselves, point themselves at someones chest, and accidentally pull their own trigger.
This is not what I would consider being held accountable for his actions.
Guns don't accidentally pick themselves up, load themselves, point themselves at someones chest, and accidentally pull their own trigger.
This is not what I would consider being held accountable for his actions.
Laurie wrote on Jun 10, 2008 8:10 PM:
This article made the accused sound like the victim! This newspaper and all of the people who chose to make up their own story without knowing the facts owe the Eberlein family a huge apology!
Mike wrote on Jun 10, 2008 7:21 PM:
To a Friend of Both---I have a lot of friends and a gun, I do not point guns at my friends even if I am angry with them. This kid has some anger issues and he needs to go to prison for his actions! The DA is weak, He is working hard at keeping his conviction rate high. Bad guys talk he keeps this up they will come in droves to Coos County.
So Sad wrote on Jun 10, 2008 5:57 PM:
It's just ridiculous that he would get such a light sentence. He may or may not have done this intentionally but he should be punished for his stupidity. Even as a young child I knew NEVER to point a gun (loaded or unloaded) at anyone! As far as the girl not wanting him to be prosecuted...of course she didn't, most teenage girls don't stand up for themselves. They believe "love" fixes everything. Good for the parents/prosecutor for charging him anyway. Even if the sentence is not appropriate.
FRIEND OF BOTH wrote on Jun 10, 2008 4:52 PM:
Maybe you should know the facts before you post ridiculous comments. The fact is, is that the shooting was an accident and even the girl that was shot said so and didn't want any charges pressed. I know this boy too and he is a great young man that would never want to hurt anyone, especially this girl. Everyone needs to leave both of these young people alone and let them heal, they have both been through hell and back!
Astounded wrote on Jun 10, 2008 3:54 PM:
All I can say is ....Wow.
I wonder if the Charley sign thieves will get off that easily.
P.S. Did we just reelect Mr. Frazier? :-o
I wonder if the Charley sign thieves will get off that easily.
P.S. Did we just reelect Mr. Frazier? :-o
sick of the corruption wrote on Jun 10, 2008 3:14 PM:
Frazier needs to be taken out of office ASAP!
Melissa wrote on Jun 10, 2008 3:12 PM:
OMG, My Daughter goes to school with this boy. And it amazes me that he can get away with this.But if you deal drugs in this town or walk down the road drunk you do more time in jail than if you shoot someone dont get me wrong i am against drugs but it seems to me that the Mr Fraiser would not give the shooter less time than the drug dealer. It is a outrages and if this were my child that was shot i would fight the DA tooth and nail before i would allow this boy to basically get away with it whether my Daughter liked it or not!!!!
Don W wrote on Jun 10, 2008 2:35 PM:
Just get a DUII in Coos and you'll find out what hard times are.
Cora wrote on Jun 10, 2008 2:13 PM:
What a freaking joke! This DA sucks and that's being nice. But he'll hammer someone for picking there nose improperly
CB wrote on Jun 10, 2008 1:27 PM:
I can't believe this either. I am sure he knew what he was doing if he went there with bullets in his backpack. What is wrong with our court system anyway ? ? ? ? You don't accidently point at someones chest and accidently shoot a gun in their direction, and accidently have taken shells to the house in your backpack. ? ? ? ?
Matt wrote on Jun 10, 2008 12:00 PM:
You have got to be kidding me. 60 days for shooting someone with a gun in the chest? That is ridiculous. If he had killed her would it have been 120 days? What is the court thinking?
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