Port cargo dock dream fades with the economy

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By Elise Hamner, City Editor
Friday, April 18, 2008 | 31 comment(s)

COOS BAY — Blame it on the economy. Jeff Bishop did. The executive director of the Oregon International Port of Coos Bay told port commissioners Thursday night his staff will postpone its effort to develop a general cargo dock on the North Spit.

Blame it on the closed railroad. Bishop did.

Usually he talks about opportunity. His lectures have been upbeat, scholarly. He displays PowerPoint presentations about business cycles. He explains the science behind potential industry. He has challenged the tiny port to leverage money from deep-pocketed liquefied natural gas speculators to finance a cargo dock for use by all shippers

Blame it on the National Marine Fisheries Service.

They’re setting the hurdles so high it’s not feasible for the port to pursue projects, Bishop said. It’s becoming a situation where it’s only feasible for LNG because they have lots of money.

The port had piggybacked Project Lofty on Jordan Cove Energy’s LNG facility proposal, as part of the permitting and environmental process. They would have shared a slip for ships.

But in the end, it seems, the link to LNG was the final deal sinker. Thursday, the commission unanimously voted to withdraw the general cargo dock from the joint permit application.

The LNG project will move ahead. The port’s withdrawal won’t affect the size of the proposed slip. It won’t affect land use approvals already OK’d.

Regulatory hammer

The work started several years ago, the port’s deputy executive director, Mike Gaul, explained. Environmental, land use, energy and wildlife agencies at the state and federal levels partnered their staff with port, Jordan Cove and pipeline representatives to work together through the permit process. The goal was cooperation and to make sure the tough questions got answered along the way.

Then earlier this month, Gaul said, the Fisheries Service lobbed a surprise.

For the port’s end of the project, it wanted detailed study on the type of cargo ships that would use the dock, the type of cargo, the number of ships per year, who the customer would be and how exactly the site would be configured. The problem is the port hasn’t signed a deal with any companies to use the cargo dock. And one “roll on, roll off” type company that was flirting with the port, walked away as the railroad embargo stretched into indefinite closure, Bishop said. He wouldn’t say who it was, but did say those types of projects involve wheels.

That wasn’t the only surprise. Last week, NMFS asked the port to impose never-before required rules for ship ballast water filtering — rules not required by any law. Possibilities might include requiring an on-ship shield system or out-of-bay water source for ballast water to prevent ships from sucking up federally protected salmon.

Gaul said when port staff balked at the demand, one agency representative commented that “Someone has to be first.”

It won’t be the Port of Coos Bay, Bishop said. This port would have the only dock on the West Coast with the ballast restriction. Unless the same standards were applied to all ports, it would render Coos Bay noncompetitive.

“The regulatory agencies were making our lives hell,” he said.

For Jordan Cove, such a requirement would equate to another financial hurdle. LNG prospectors can afford it, he added, not a port like Coos Bay.

The bigger question

The wheezing economy has faded the luster on the proposed container terminal project, too. Bishop suggested that project also might be endangered.

Bishop said it will face at least a five-year delay should it happen at all. The concept of moving 2 million containers through Coos Bay still is viable, but the wilting U.S. dollar, the defunct railroad, increasing permit/project costs and increasing capacity at major ports are getting in the way.

Port commissioners were mostly silent throughout the discussions. Even so, Bishop came back to clarify his thoughts three times throughout the night.

The container terminal customer the port refuses to identify still wants the port to pursue a study on digging the lower shipping channel deeper and wider, Bishop said. Port staff urged the commission to move forward, but to push cautiously, with careful watch on environmental issues, any costs to the port and the ailing economy.

“I haven’t seen anything to make me believe the economy is turning around,” he said.
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  • Poor Fisherman wrote on Apr 24, 2008 7:37 PM:

    Yeh Port, why the increase in moorage fees now that we can't fish at all for the salmon. We can't make any money and you want to raise our moorage fees, wow, kick us when we are down. Can't make the boat payments, or any other payments, but YOU want more money. Guess we all have to take our boats out of the water. Oh well, we can't use them anyway, if we can't fish.
    Guess none of you port guys relate to us poor fishermen.

    Editors note wrote on Apr 23, 2008 7:28 AM:

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    The forum is open to anyone. If you haven't signed up or read the posts before, it's free, self-moderated conversation with other readers. Here's the link:
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    Common Sense wrote on Apr 22, 2008 8:41 AM:

    Yeah those Port Commission Scammers...how about those paid vacations to Japan, etc to see a LNG storage unit close up that this area doesn't want or need!

    I wish the poll had one more choice (#5), which would read get rid of useLESS Gov Ted & then throw out his useLESS clones of his! I think Gov Ted is the only Democrat that was an Ex-Republican, that Republican party rejected along time ago!

    North Bend Developer wrote on Apr 22, 2008 7:04 AM:

    I sure would like to know how the Port can justify spending thousands of $$$ on the following expenses: several thousands on ex legislator Messerly for lobbing per month, four thousand a month for a New York advertising team, thousands and thousands for public paid travel for the port commissioners, [if you want to travel all over the world on the ports money just look into their travel schedule]paying double the salaries of previous staff,raising the rates to the poor fishermen, never listening to the public,and seeing that this isn't the same population that was here twenty five years ago. Please, stop waisting the public's money.

    Samual wrote on Apr 21, 2008 5:15 PM:

    #2 Doing a terrible job!

    Jane wrote on Apr 21, 2008 5:13 PM:

    I pick:
    #1 They need to be replaced by Gov Ted. Anyone else at a regular job would of been fired by now! Not sure if replacing them would make a difference since Gov Ted put them in himself, since they are not elected officials!

    Poll_on_Port's_job_proformance wrote on Apr 21, 2008 1:46 PM:

    I'd like to suggest to the World newspaper the following poll:

    What do you think of the Port Commission members:

    1) They need to be replaced by Gov Ted.
    2) Doing a terrible job.
    3) Doing a great job.
    4) Should of never been put there in the first place by Gov Ted.

    How about it World & readers?

    Gov Teddy Get A Clue wrote on Apr 21, 2008 10:31 AM:

    Get rid of your implanted clones (Appointed Port members) & start over! Big ideas & Wasting Tax payers money with ZERO results! How you still support this LNG garbage that supply's California with gas in a Tsunami zone is typical of your clueLESS decisions that this area continues to suffer from! Go back to school & take a basic economic course or QUIT...pick one SOON please!!!!!!

    I don't get it Port wrote on Apr 20, 2008 2:59 PM:

    How come the Port never asks people around here what they want or what would be good for the area? They remind of some old fool dog just chasing it's own tail over & over again! Wake up & hire someone outside of the state that can teach you on basic economics, pathetic on how it's been going!

    Dave wrote on Apr 20, 2008 2:51 PM:

    I've been to many nice places such as Florida, Hawaii, etc. & they know what the word tourism means! I'm a loss for words on this state & their backwards thinking! Maybe that's the reason Oregon doesn't promote tourism, because they know outside of the area people are alot smarter then them (HaHa)!

    Jane wrote on Apr 20, 2008 1:00 PM:

    Hi New to the area & welcome,

    I agree Arizona is a wonderful example of a successful tourist place. I don't understand the ignorance of this state either, since Oregon has so much to offer & the state leaders, along with alot of citizens are clueLESS on what will work in this state to turn it around! Say NO to California LNG!
    P.S. I've been to the Grand Canyon & what a place to visit, so hugh!

    New to the Area wrote on Apr 19, 2008 6:14 PM:

    I came from Arizona (Still own a house in Northern Arizona) & tourism is the driving force behind it's success with OVER 7 million people visiting Phoenix yearly. This area has more to offer then Phoenix will ever offer, thus tourism could turn around this state! I LOVE Oregon's beauty, but don't understand the ignorance of the people that live here, not knowing what they have & how to make it work better! Anyone that would say Detroit or Pittsburgh are good places to live are fooling themselves & trying to fool others in here!

    Common Sense wrote on Apr 19, 2008 5:59 PM:

    Reality folks is this:

    There is MILLIONS of tourists out there that do NOT visit Oregon!

    There is MILLIONS of near future baby boomers out there that do NOT visit Oregon!

    Majority of all goods & survices are made outside of the USA (China mainly), thus LESS & LESS good jobs are out there PERIOD!

    Add it up & I'd rather have tourists & baby boomer retirements then to have NOTTA as Oregon has today!

    P.S. Detroit & Pittsburgh have been on a decline for YEARS (MORE & MORE people leaving their area) due to their industrial jobs that created their present problems (Crime & pollution)!

    Thomas wrote on Apr 19, 2008 8:47 AM:

    Tourism offers only one things.More Low paying jobs.We need industry.We need family wage jobs.Why do you thinks ther is falling numbers of children in our schools.There is nothing here to offer a good family.This community was not founded on tourism.But with all the retirees moving here,they dont care about jobs for the families.They want to see rite aids and walmarts.Those low paying jobs are why we have the rising crime and drug use.No Hope for a good Job.

    Shirley wrote on Apr 19, 2008 8:06 AM:

    Yeah, not sure who's the worse between CoosBay council, Port Commission & Governor Teddy. They all have something in common, waste alot of time & $$$...

    P.S. If California wants more LNG then let them put one of these on their coast! Don't get CON'd on this one!

    worker wrote on Apr 19, 2008 3:28 AM:

    I am a worker and I'm on my way out of here. Coos Bay is now officially a place for meth, unemployment, crumbling schools, closed businesses, a hospital that is soon to be underfunded, and retirees. I'm taking my family (12 years here) and we're headed to greener pastures. Officially, the environmentalists and anti-job forces have won. congrats.

    Ranger wrote on Apr 18, 2008 11:25 PM:

    heh heh (chuckle)

    Bay Area economy outlook: Grim, think retirement community...don't say I didn't tell ya so

    Real_Story wrote on Apr 18, 2008 10:07 PM:

    THIS PRESS RELEASE MAY TELL THE REAL STORY.

    Friday, April 11 at 1:00 PM Eastern Standard Time
    Press Statement
    APM Terminals Selected as Preferred Bidder in
    Vancouver, Canada Container Terminal Project
    Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada – Vancouver Fraser Port Authority has selected a joint venture between APM Terminals North America and SNC‐Lavalin (APM Terminals/SNC‐Lavalin), as the preferred proponent for the Terminal 2 Project and will negotiate a business agreement as the next step in the partner selection process.
    The process of negotiating an agreement is expected to take four to six months.
    APM Terminals is a member of the A.P. Moller‐Maersk Group of Denmark and is headquartered in The Hague, Netherlands. APM offers extensive global container terminal operations and management, with more than 50 terminals in 31 countries, including 13 major terminals in the United States.

    Enigma wrote on Apr 18, 2008 3:13 PM:

    Common Sense - Please start getting some valid statistics. Tourists and retired people CAN NOT support the economy here. Nor do they bring in family wage jobs. In rare communities like Leavenworth, Aspen, Vail, Jackson Hole it has worked, to a point. But I guarantee you, you would not like what happens to a community to get to that destination resort status. I have owned property in Jackson Hole and owned a business in Leavenworth. Rigid business and building requirements maintain those areas. In order for a community to survive in today's economy there MUST BE
    balance and one has to support the other. Industry, Tourism, retirement and working people have to co-exist.
    BTW, I was in Pittsburgh last week and found the city beautiful and vibrant, they are recovering are balancing Tourism with Industry.

    Gene wrote on Apr 18, 2008 3:12 PM:

    I like the comments in the Forums better.

    Thomas wrote on Apr 18, 2008 2:22 PM:

    "... will postpone its effort to develop a general cargo dock on the North Spit."

    Will you be taking us off the short list for importing nuclear waste destined for Yucca Mountain too, Mr Bishop?

    NB Resident wrote on Apr 18, 2008 1:52 PM:

    I don't understand people blaming environmentalists on the Port's inability to do their jobs! They always seem to get into situations like this, big ideas, then never get organize to have it became reality! They seem to spend alot of time & money with little to show for it since I've lived here for 10 years now! For the record, I'm against the LNG proposal at Jordan Cove, because it offers little to the area (Gas going to California & very few jobs will be created too), but potentially has big risks being placed in a Tsunami zone of all places! I see this LNG as a desperate attempt by the Port to justify their own existance (Their salary paid by Oregon tax payers) on why it is still going forward!

    Common Sense wrote on Apr 18, 2008 1:37 PM:

    Craig, you seem sincere & somewhat educated compared with the rest, but placing a LNG Storage unit in a Tsunami zone (Waiting for a 9.0+ Earthquake, followed by a 100 foot tidal wave), where all the gas is going to California is NOT the answer to this area's job needs PERIOD! I'm not against jobs, but I'm against hurting an area (Oregon is one of the NICEST/BEAUTIFUL places in the whole USA) that has a HUGH potential for millions of tourists, along with millions of soon to be retiring baby boomers out there that will spend LOTS of their $$$ visiting/living possibly here PERIOD! Last thought for you, when you chase the $$$ & get it, don't be surprised IF you find yourself coming back here to visit/live in the future...mainly because it's that special of a place...

    Happily Employed wrote on Apr 18, 2008 1:10 PM:

    Common Sense, the port district has been zoned by the County as INDUSTRIAL, not PARK! Get a clue!! it is supposed
    to be INDUSTRIAL! We have park areas,
    residential areas, commercial areas,
    and INDUSTRIAL areas.

    Most tourist jobs are very low paid,
    repetitive and boring. No thanks.

    If you want to live in a park,
    go move yourself.

    Jane wrote on Apr 18, 2008 1:07 PM:

    Hi Edward again,

    Did you even read the article? There was nothing mentioned about environmentalists as the reason for stoppage of the cargo dock (It stated economy, railroad & National Marine Fisheries Service as the reasons!)! Also, tourism is the future of Oregon, but the State leaders, business people have to have a organized plan to make it work! Say NO to California LNG!

    Craig wrote on Apr 18, 2008 1:05 PM:

    To Common Sense: I grew up in the Coos Bay area and it was a wonderfully vibrant area. In the 70's and 80's jobs were good, schools had a lot of programs and class choices for kids. Today, I wouldn't move back there for anything. I do understand and appreciate Oregon's unspoiled beauty but without family wage jobs and the income to support social and emergency services the south coast is on a steep slide downhill. The area has lost it's sense of balance between jobs and natural beauty. When I do travel back to the Bay Area it's sad to see such decline in the community. Houses are falling apart, roads are terrible, the job situation is pathetic and the crime and drugs are rampant in comparison to my time there. Cutting out economic growth is the wrong answer. I'll bet tourism takes a hit this summer too with fuel prices climbing as they are. If all you are relying on is tourism, your setting yourself up for a hard fall.

    Fred Kirby wrote on Apr 18, 2008 12:53 PM:

    Why not be totally honest and report that APM terminals selected Vancouver for their next west coast terminal and there certainly is no need for a terminal a few miles south at Coos Bay.

    Joe sixpack wrote on Apr 18, 2008 12:44 PM:

    Don't com peat with Portland that ware the money is and they want to keep it! At least North Bend has A old old dock that is steal there. It can be fixed, Because wince it is removed it takes more permits to put it back then repair it! We need people who dream and people to help the dreamers!

    Common Sense wrote on Apr 18, 2008 12:05 PM:

    Edward, tourists don't visit industrial projects as this California LNG SCAM! They want to see a NON-trashed/industrialized places! They want to see Oregon's beautiful beaches, forests, wild life, Crater Lake, Rivers, Steams, etc.! Last thing they want to see is Industral garbage sitting on a beautiful coast! Sorry!

    P.S. To the others...IF you want Industrial jobs, Detroit & Pittsburgh are you BEST choices...great run down places they are!

    Edward wrote on Apr 18, 2008 11:38 AM:

    Sadly, the environmentalists and anti-anything's of this area are winning. Take a look at your crumbling roads and schools. Enjoy the loss of first responders. Tourism? What tourism? I guess we'll have a great hospital for the next ten years...until all the retirees die. Congrats!

    mark vincent wrote on Apr 18, 2008 11:38 AM:

    I only have one word on these (railroad, container depoe, developement of the bay as a major port, JOBS, etc...) and here it is

    AAARRRRRGGGGGGHHH!!!!!!!

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